LDS Only: Self-righteousness in our midst

[Orontes]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

I'm already following the posts on that thread, with the exception of MadHatter's, and I believe you've already stated your position there. This thread was never intended to be a continuation of that one, although that's clearly what it has become. [/size][/font]

I haven't put forward any argument in the other thread.

Or by both. To me, discrimination is immoral.

How do you define discrimination? On its face, your comment is quite bold and I'm not sure you appreciate its full scope.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Orontes

I haven't put forward any argument in the other thread.

Apparently I was confusing you with someone else then.

How do you define discrimination?

I realize that discrimination is not always a bad thing. We have to discriminate between right and wrong every day of our lives. What I was referring to was the showing of favoritism in treatment because of differences.

On its face, your comment is quite bold and I'm not sure you appreciate its full scope.

Well, I'm sure that, being the fine debater you are, you will take this opportunity to educate me. Regardless of how eloquently you might be able to point out the flaws in my statement, I think you know what I meant to say. What you don't seem to get is that I don't want to argue that point on this thread. There are two other threads for that purpose.

[Watchmen]

Katz - thanks for a great OP. I think for some the Iron Rod is as large as a the rail of a stairway while for others it's like a thread that only those with 20/20 vision will find.

[Orontes]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Apparently I was confusing you with someone else then.[/size][/font]

I realize that discrimination is not always a bad thing. We have to discriminate between right and wrong every day of our lives. What I was referring to was the showing of favoritism in treatment because of differences.

[font=Arial][size=2]Well, I'm sure that, being the fine debater you are, you will take this opportunity to educate me. Regardless of how eloquently you might be able to point out the flaws in my statement, I think you know what I meant to say. What you don't seem to get is that I don't want to argue that point on this thread. There are two other threads for that purpose.

Ouch!

[madhatter85]

Originally Posted by DisneyMan

Katz - thanks for a great OP. I think for some the Iron Rod is as large as a the rail of a stairway while for others it's like a thread that only those with 20/20 vision will find.

No, the Iron Rod is a constant. it is unwavering and immovable. The only way to not grasp onto it is to draw yourself away from it.

speakign of self-righteousness. the onyl other person i know of that has "ignored" me was "Fish-Hunter" because he couldn't answer any of my questions and proved him wrong on many occasions. Being so self-righteous as to ignore someone jus because they have a differing view is sad.

[Watchmen]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

No, the Iron Rod is a constant. it is unwavering and immovable. The only way to not grasp onto it is to draw yourself away from it.

You missed the point of my post, which isn't surprising given the size of your rod. In other words, you and Starfish have demonstrated an extremely narrow interpretation of what you think is "right." For you, the iron rod is so thin that only the select can find and grasp it and others, like me and katzpur, who have bigger rods, are open to more liberal interpretations of doctrine.

[madhatter85]

Originally Posted by DisneyMan

You missed the point of my post, which isn't surprising given the size of your rod. In other words, you and Starfish have demonstrated an extremely narrow interpretation of what you think is "right." For you, the iron rod is so thin that only the select can find and grasp it and others, like me and katzpur, who have bigger rods, are open to more liberal interpretations of doctrine.

God is not Liberal, he is pure truth and right. there is only one truth. there are not many different things that "can be true" in the gospel. It really is that black and white.

[Watchmen]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

God is not Liberal, he is pure truth and right. there is only one truth. there are not many different things that "can be true" in the gospel. It really is that black and white.

Like I said, your rod is as thin as a thread.

Do you even know what "liberal" means?

[Starfish]

Originally Posted by DisneyMan

You missed the point of my post, which isn't surprising given the size of your rod. In other words, you and Starfish have demonstrated an extremely narrow interpretation of what you think is "right." For you, the iron rod is so thin that only the select can find and grasp it and others, like me and katzpur, who have bigger rods, are open to more liberal interpretations of doctrine.

How have I demonstrated a "narrow view"? In another thread you said my words, "exemplifies the fearful thinking that promotes close mindedness, which, in turn, leads to more bigotry. It's making excuses."
Yet when I asked what you meant, you said nothing. Then Orontes gave quotes from Elders Packer and Nelson that agreed with what I had said. Still no response to that. I have made every effort to stay friendly to everyone, and trying to see all sides. Yet we all must be allowed to state our true feelings, especially when we feel the need to defend the 1st presidency's decision in this matter.

So please tell my how I have a narrow view. And if my view is narrow, how do I compare that to "strait is the gate and narrow is the way", or "the way for man is narrow", or "enter into the narrow gate".

Maybe your comment was a compliment? Sorry, I'm not being sarcastic. I would like to know how you feel I am wrong.

Thanks.

[Watchmen]

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