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View Poll Results: If someone were to tell you that he was a Christian, that would mean that he is...
a person who believes Jesus Christ is God. 9 21.43%
a person who worships Jesus Christ and looks to Him as his Savior. 16 38.10%
a person who sees Jesus Christ as a great teacher. 10 23.81%
a person whose beliefs are based on the Bible alone. 1 2.38%
a person who is believes he is “saved by faith in Jesus Christ alone.” 7 16.67%
a person who is likely to tell you (a non-Christian) that you’re “damned.” 5 11.90%
A person who strives to love his fellow men, including his enemies. 9 21.43%
a person whose life is controlled by fear and superstition. 2 4.76%
a person who belongs to a specific Christian denomination. 4 9.52%
a person who calls himself a Christian. 32 76.19%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-26-2008, 01:23 PM
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Christianity is a Jewish religion


Christianity does rely on the Jewish scriptures, yet it relies on a gross mistranslation/misinterpretation of them. It is a radical departure from Judaism.

To say that Christianity is a "Jewish religion" is an insult to Judaism.
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There was (for me) only ever one real Christian, and that was Jesus or Emmanuel the Nazarene as I prefer as it doesn't smack of assumed divinity.
Y'know it's funny... but in the bible, nobody called Jesus "Emmanuel".

Nobody.

In Matthew 1:23 there was a reference to a child that would be born to a virgin and that someone would call Emmanuel (a faulty/sloppy reference to Isaiah 7:14 which was fulfilled 700 years earlier)... but the text very clearly says that Joseph named the child Jesus.

This is the ONLY time the word Emmanuel appears throughout the entire "New Testament."
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To say that Christianity is a "Jewish religion" is an insult to Judaism.
How about saying that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are all Abrahamic religions? You don't have a problem with that designation, do you? As a Christian, I can understand why it would be offensive to you to say that Christianity is a Jewish religion, but I think it would be accurate to say that Jesus Christ, who was Jewish, founded the Church that would later come to be called Christianity.
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How about saying that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are all Abrahamic religions? You don't have a problem with that designation, do you? As a Christian, I can understand why it would be offensive to you to say that Christianity is a Jewish religion, but I think it would be accurate to say that Jesus Christ, who was Jewish, founded the Church that would later come to be called Christianity.

No, I don't have a problem with that designation.
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To say that Christianity is a "Jewish religion" is an insult to Judaism.
I couldn't care less.

I don't concern myself with your sensitivities...

Christianity is a judaic religion, if you find that insulting...you should see me when I really try..

Jews, Christians, Muslims you are all monotheists, with abrahamic traditions... seemingly identical to me, fundamentally.

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I couldn't care less.

I don't concern myself with your sensitivities...
And I don't concern myself with what you couldn't care less about. My response was not so much for you as it was for people reading the thread in general.

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Christianity is a judaic religion, if you find that insulting...you should see me when I really try..
I can imagine. Your indignation at this trivial little matter indicates you have the potential to become a particularly salty character.

This should be fun.

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Jews, Christians, Muslims you are all monotheists, with abrahamic traditions... seemingly identical to me, fundamentally.
I have a problem (not that you care) with the notion that Christians are considered monotheists. The concept of the trinity has two too many to call itself one. You can go ahead and tell me I just don't understand the trinity... I've heard it all before.

Unless there are the brands of Christianity that don't buy the trinity... they simply prefer to believe that Jesus is God incarnate. That might allow it to be monotheist, but clearly not from any Abrahamic tradition, considering Abraham put an end to idolatry.

Just because the Christians lean on the "Old Testament" to prop up their "new testament" does not make Christianity Jewish, Judaic, Judeo, Hebraic, or anything similar.

Jews who know scripture and have seen what Christians have done to it know what I'm talking about.

Heck...non-Jews who know scripture have seen what Christians have done to it and know what I'm talking about.

Christianity might be a wonderful religion, with its own sense of fellowship and community and charity etc... but it is its own religion.

But to tie it to Judaism and pretend those ties haven't been severely severed 2000 years ago is just wrong... and not just because I say so.
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Your indignation at this trivial little matter indicates you have the potential to become a particularly salty character.
Sorry its just my chaotic nature plus I have almost no patience what so ever (with ppl online).
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Sorry its just my chaotic nature plus I have almost no patience what so ever (with ppl online).
If that's the case, are you sure an internet debate forum is the place for you?

Having been here for nearly 500 posts... having almost no patience whatsoever with people online... makes me wonder what it does to your attitude when you step away from the computer...
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