Christian/Catholic - Why...? (priests, tradition, birth control, hell, doctrine)

[Mister Emu]

Ok, I am misunderstanding something. correct me if i am wrong, but isn't celibacy a mandatory vow for abstaining in sexual intercourse?

Celibacy must not necessarily be mandatory... Paul advised celibacy for everyone, the Latin rite of the Catholic Church mandates it for priests.

[Ratiocinative]

Originally Posted by trinity2359

No Doubt! Us, biblically illerate Catholics only read the Bible at EVERY MASS and cover the entire Bible every three years! Just cause we don't thump the book over your head doesn't mean we don't use it! BTW - where did the Bible come from.... can we say the Catholic Church *ding, ding, ding *

Whew, sorry about that - kind of lost control there

Wow three years. Thats slightly more than one page of an average sized Bible a day. I guess that explains why Catholics understand the Bible so well! And the Bible came from the Catholic Church? ROFL. At best they confirmed what had already been canonized, and thats very debatable.

[rheff78]

I think what Trinity is saying is that all Bibles (whatever denomination) originated fromthe Catholic Church. As the Protestant religions were simply breakaway religions from Catholicism and thus further altering the Bible and what books went in it or came out.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

Celibacy must not necessarily be mandatory... Paul advised celibacy for everyone, the Latin rite of the Catholic Church mandates it for priests.

I would agree that Paul adviced voluntary celibacy. In that case i would disagree with anyone who mandates it. because that would be contrary to the teachings of the early church already.

[Scott1]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

I would agree that Paul adviced voluntary celibacy. In that case i would disagree with anyone who mandates it. because that would be contrary to the teachings of the early church already.

All the ordained ministers of the Latin Church, with the exception of permanent deacons, are normally chosen from among men of faith who live a celibate life and who intend to remain celibate "for the sake of the kingdom of heaven." Called to consecrate themselves with undivided heart to the Lord and to "the affairs of the Lord," they give themselves entirely to God and to men. Celibacy is a sign of this new life to the service of which the Church's minister is consecrated; accepted with a joyous heart celibacy radiantly proclaims the Reign of God.

This is not part of Catholic dogma... as an ex-Catholic I'm sure you know that.... and the Church is free to change it if they so choose.

This really isn't an issue that concerned the Apostle Paul any more than what shoes we wear to church..... priestly celibacy is a custom of the Latin Rite---- and there are actually many married Catholic priests that prove this is not a steadfast "rule" that needs to be supported by a particular verse in Scripture.... not sure why you didn't know all this with your vast experience with the Church.....????