Will there ever be just the one religion - as there is only the one God!? (beliefs, creation)

[Hema]

Originally Posted by whereismynotecard

I love Baggins. And am socially conditioned to love my sisters and my mom.

Yes, I can tell that you're a very loving person.

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by Dunemeister

If the Jesus Christ of the Mormon faith is the real one, and if he returns in my lifetime, then yes.

The Jesus Christ of the Mormon faith is the Jesus Christ of the New Testament. There is only one Jesus Christ, but we (you and I) have different ideas about Him.

That doesn't make multiple Jesus' like you MSC's like to say, it makes multiple understandings of the one Jesus.

If you think George Washington had three arms and I think he is green, that doesn't make two George Washingtons...

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by Dunemeister

Strictly speaking, no.

Then why do you keep saying it?

But as the Apostle Paul said, there are different gospels based on different Christs.

Christ wasn't Jesus' last name. It is Greek for Messiah... he wasn't talking about multiple Jesus'.

There is and was one real Jesus, but heretics "modify" Jesus so that the Jesus one group believes in is not the same as that of others.

For example the pagans at Nicea...

For instance, the Mormon Jesus had been married and had kids;

Please provide a scriptural (LDS) reference for this claim. Secondly, I don't recall the bible saying Jesus was NOT married so how would there be a contradiction either way? There may be individual LDS who believe this but I am quite confident it is not official doctrine.

he went to North America.

Is there a portion of the bible that says: ps. Jesus didn't go to America...?

Traditional Christians affirm Jesus' virginity and don't believe he returned after his resurrection (yet). Donatists used to say that Jesus didn't have a real body. And on it goes. So all these groups have different Jesuses.

No, as you yourself have now admitted, they do not "have different Jesuses" (sic). They have different ideas about the one and only Jesus.

[DeepShadow]

Originally Posted by Dunemeister

For instance, the Mormon Jesus had been married and had kids.

(deep breaths)

As you have hereby demonstrated that you know nothing of our beliefs, please refrain from representing us. Matter of fact, I would recommend you avoid representing anyone's beliefs for them, and if you must do so, do it with qualifiers.

[Dunemeister]

Originally Posted by Comprehend

No, as you yourself have now admitted, they do not "have different Jesuses" (sic). They have different ideas about the one and only Jesus.

Six of one, half dozen of the other. You're quite the curmudgeon, aren't you?

[Dunemeister]

Originally Posted by DeepShadow

(deep breaths)

As you have hereby demonstrated that you know nothing of our beliefs, please refrain from representing us. Matter of fact, I would recommend you avoid representing anyone's beliefs for them, and if you must do so, do it with qualifiers.

Apologies. I came by this idea through discussions with Mormons. I don't know of any scriptural source (biblical, LDS, or otherwise) to support the claim. I just assumed that the Mormons I was talking to (they were missionaries) knew what they were talking about.

It should be noted in fairness that the same could be said to Mormons. Several times, Mormons have misrepresented traditional and biblical Christianity (at least, they've done so by my lights). Should I demand that all Mormons not say anything about Christianity? That would be absurd. Similarly, it's absurd for Mormons to demand that I "refrain from representing you." It's very likely that we misunderstand each other at various points, and if so, the best response is simply to correct the other's misapprehension.

No need to get testy....

[DeepShadow]

Originally Posted by Dunemeister

Six of one, half dozen of the other.

This is hardly a matter of semantics. There is a drastic difference between two perceptions of the same being and two different beings. For example, it's been said that if everyone draws closer to Christ, we will naturally draw closer together. That's true if we have different perspectives on the same being, but not if we are actually viewing different people.

Moreover, to claim that each perspective on Christ/God is the same as a separate entity is to claim that only one perspective will every lead to salvation: an incomplete view is not enough. Problem is, no mortal can ever have a complete view of the divine...and so no one can be saved.

[Dunemeister]

Originally Posted by Comprehend

Is there a portion of the bible that says: ps. Jesus didn't go to America...?

Indirectly, yes. The Book of Hebrews says that after Jesus' ascension, he became our high priest. As high priest, he "sat down at the right hand of the Father." The High Priest sits down only after his work (administering salvation from God) is finished. So this passage implies that after his resurrection, Jesus had no further work to do with respect to salvation. Thus for Jesus to have appeared ANYWHERE after the resurrection and before the final judgment would contradict scripture.