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Old 04-11-2008, 12:42 AM
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That will make you a mormon?
If the Jesus Christ of the Mormon faith is the real one, and if he returns in my lifetime, then yes.
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:51 AM
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If the Jesus Christ of the Mormon faith is the real one, and if he returns in my lifetime, then yes.
There's different Jesuses?
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Old 04-11-2008, 01:14 AM
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ye you know the one in the mall the one on the boat the one on tv :P
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Old 04-11-2008, 03:50 AM
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Can this be true? Can one day the world find peace with one another and remember the heritage God created for us. When he recreated the world with Noah and the floods and Noah's sons went onto create the diversity of nationalities and save us from the path we were taking? Can we one day walk as one as we were meant to?

I ask this question not to discriminate against any religion, but to pose the question of unity in order to create a more peaceful place to live and to prompt others to think about the creation of the world we live in and the vastness of its beauty and really what God's intentions would have been?

i wish! i am afraid it is never gonna happen.
there are many numbers of religions, the fact does not change though. who needs a key that can't open the door? only one of them is the religion and there are people in every nation who follows that one and only religion of God. there are already, Christians, Jews and Muslims who share the same path but masses do not know that.
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Old 04-11-2008, 03:58 AM
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There's different Jesuses?
Yep.
There are actually 38,200 Jesuses
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Old 04-11-2008, 05:31 AM
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Can this be true? Can one day the world find peace with one another and remember the heritage God created for us. When he recreated the world with Noah and the floods and Noah's sons went onto create the diversity of nationalities and save us from the path we were taking? Can we one day walk as one as we were meant to?

I ask this question not to discriminate against any religion, but to pose the question of unity in order to create a more peaceful place to live and to prompt others to think about the creation of the world we live in and the vastness of its beauty and really what God's intentions would have been?

Unfortunately your idea of peace is not possible in this world. Why?

1. We were already warned by Peter ( second letter 2:1) "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction." and warrned by John (first letter 4:1) "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

Why would their be false prophets? Peter said in his second letter(2:3) "Those teachers are never satisfied. They want to get something out of you. So they make up stories to take advantage of you. They have been under a sentence of death for a long time. The One who will destroy them has not been sleeping. "

How do you make sure you are not taken advantage of? Paul said to the Cornthians in first letter (4:13) "We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; That is why paul reiterated further in verse 6 if the same letter and chapter " And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another." Paul further stated in 2 Cor 12:18 "I desired Titus, and with him I sent a brother. Did Titus make a gain of you? walked we not in the same spirit? walked we not in the same steps?

Paul and Titus were in the same spirit, The real church will follow a single non-contradicting doctrine as stated by John 7:16-18 "Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

The bible is pretty consistent, if you will seek the glory of the lord you will not seek your own. hence the preacher of God's doctrin shall exprience what Jesus said in the gospel of Matthew 10:24 " The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord" and therefore shall experience the following MAtthew 10:22"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Hence, that is why Matthew said in Chapter 5:10-11 "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

There can't be peace, a lot of people will seek there own glory rather than God's and they will persecute those who seek's God's will.
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Old 04-11-2008, 08:09 AM
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There's different Jesuses?
Strictly speaking, no. But as the Apostle Paul said, there are different gospels based on different Christs. There is and was one real Jesus, but heretics "modify" Jesus so that the Jesus one group believes in is not the same as that of others. For instance, the Mormon Jesus had been married and had kids; he went to North America. Traditional Christians affirm Jesus' virginity and don't believe he returned after his resurrection (yet). Donatists used to say that Jesus didn't have a real body. And on it goes. So all these groups have different Jesuses.
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Christ will return. At that moment, all persons everywhere living will bend the knee and acknowledge that he is in fact both our King and our God. That'll do it.
and those who say "thanks, but no thanks, i'd rather just keep living my own life."?
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