LDS Church To Talk With Gay Advocacy Group (priest, moral)

[Starfish]

Originally Posted by Sola'lor

Well hopefully it will help church members git rid of the gays=icky attitude. I hope it will help create a greater understanding and respect for each group. Even if there is no policy change it can't hurt to talk with eachother.

It's been a long time since I've had that "icky" attitude. That was back in my youth when it really wasn't talked about. Now I just have a profound sympathy for them. There's a woman in our ward who is paranoid/schizophrenic and has no hope of ever recovering, or that her life will ever change or improve. Life is definately not fair. It's one of the reasons I cling to the gospel.

[Bishka]

Originally Posted by Starfish

Now I just have a profound sympathy for them.

We don't want your sympathy.

Sympathy doesn't change anything.

We want change, we want a bit more acceptance and we don't want to be looked down because of our sexual orientation.

No, instead of sympathy, try empathy.

[zippythepinhead]

Originally Posted by Bishka

We don't want your sympathy.

Sympathy doesn't change anything.

We want change, we want a bit more acceptance and we don't want to be looked down because of our sexual orientation.

No, instead of sympathy, try empathy.

I am willing to give them empathy. If they want me to accept their lifestyle choice, I am sorry no can do. Practiced homosexuality is an abomination before the Lord. That is not homophobic, that is a spiritual truth. However, I do believe we can be tolerant of others and their beliefs, even if we agree to disagree.

[Fluffy]

Excellent stuff. Dialogue is always encouraged regardless of what each group hopes to get out of it. I hope this can become more regular than it has been in the past.

[Bishka]

Originally Posted by zippythepinhead

I am willing to give them empathy. If they want me to accept their lifestyle choice, I am sorry no can do. Practiced homosexuality is an abomination before the Lord. That is not homophobic, that is a spiritual truth. However, I do believe we can be tolerant of others and their beliefs, even if we agree to disagree.

You do realize that empathy and sympathy are two different things, right?

How can you be empathetic if you've never experienced it?

[SoyLeche]

Originally Posted by Bishka

You do realize that empathy and sympathy are two different things, right?

How can you be empathetic if you've never experienced it?

If it is impossible to be empathetic without experiencing it - why did you ask for empathy from those who have never experienced it???

[zippythepinhead]

Originally Posted by Bishka

You do realize that empathy and sympathy are two different things, right?

How can you be empathetic if you've never experienced it?

Though I have not experiecned it personally, I know some people that fall into the gay category. I can be empathetic as a friend.

[zippythepinhead]

Originally Posted by SoyLeche

If it is impossible to be empathetic without experiencing it - why did you ask for empathy from those who have never experienced it???

This is a notable quotable.

[madhatter85]

Originally Posted by Bishka

We don't want your sympathy.

Sympathy doesn't change anything.

We want change, we want a bit more acceptance and we don't want to be looked down because of our sexual orientation.

No, instead of sympathy, try empathy.

Empathy is impossible for those not struggling to overcome Same Sex Attraction.

Sympathy is all we can offer to help those who may be going through a difficult time to try and help them overcome it.