Christians--Do Evangelicals Believe Everyone Else Going to Hell? (Jesus Christ, gospel)

[Starfish]

Anyone who has not accepted Christ--the Christ that fits the traditional Nicene definition--is doomed to hell. Is this your belief? Really?

[whereismynotecard]

That's what Hope told me... but I don't remember what religion she is...

[Wandered Off]

This is exactly what I was taught in the Southern Baptist churches I grew up attending. They didn't realize you don't have to create a "them" to have an "us".

[ChristineES]

A lot of Christians do believe that everyone else is going to "hell" but I believe that "God will save whom he chooses". With God, anything would be possible.
There is also the fact that humans couldn't truly, 100% understand the nature of God.
They use certain verses to support this but (to me), these verses are inconclusive.

[lunamoth]

The Emerging Church Movement is an evangelical movement that has a much gentler understanding about Jesus' statements about hell. They also tend to focus on things like social justice and environmental stweardship, rather than fire and brimstone. A refreshing change that tempts me to label myself an Emerging Evangelical Episcopalian.

[Ratiocinative]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

A lot of Christians do believe that everyone else is going to "hell" but I believe that "God will save whom he chooses". With God, anything would be possible.
There is also the fact that humans couldn't truly, 100% understand the nature of God.
They use certain verses to support this but (to me), these verses are inconclusive.

No, humans cannot fully understand the nature of God, but he made sure to tell us everything about him that we do need to know. The Bible is very clear that only those who have faith in Christ will be saved. To say that it is possible that people without faith in Christ might be saved just proves you've never read the Bible. The Bible says over and over that those who believe will be saved, and those who do not believe will be condemned. I can understand the desire to try and find other ways for people to be saved, but the Bible is very clear that there is no other way. How is lying to someone about how to be saved going to help them become saved? If there were another way to be saved then you would be able to quote some scripture proving it, instead of a strawman argument about humans being incapable of fully understanding God.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Ratiocinative

I can understand the desire to try and find other ways for people to be saved, but the Bible is very clear that there is no other way.

I believe you're guilty of that yourself. After all, you've made it clear on several occasions that you believe that a person doesn't need to have even heard of Christ in order to believe in Him. People who lived centuries before He did and in parts of the world where Hinduism, for instance, was the only religion around, just magically had a knowledge of Jesus Christ and His gospel.

[madhatter85]

the only problem i see with religion claiming too be the only way by which mankind may be saved is the fact that not everyone on the world will ever have a chance to hear who Jesus Christ is, due to location or how they were raised.

if a religion claims to be the only way by which mankind may be saved there has to be some kind of salvation for those who never had a chance, otherwise thier God would be a respecter of persons.

[Dunemeister]

Originally Posted by Starfish

Anyone who has not accepted Christ--the Christ that fits the traditional Nicene definition--is doomed to hell. Is this your belief? Really?

No.....

[Ratiocinative]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

I believe you're guilty of that yourself. After all, you've made it clear on several occasions that you believe that a person doesn't need to have even heard of Christ in order to believe in Him. People who lived centuries before He did and in parts of the world where Hinduism, for instance, was the only religion around, just magically had a knowledge of Jesus Christ and His gospel.

You must have a bad memory then. I said people do not have to know the actual name of Jesus, they just need to know about him. What is important to understand is that God incarnated himself as a man and died on a cross to redeem his people from their sin. It doesn't matter whether you refer to him as Jesus, Joshua, Isa, Christ, or whatever, as long as you understand what he did. I also said that just because someone has never heard about Christ doesn't mean they never had a chance to hear about him. The Bible says that creation testifies about God and his power and that no one has an excuse for not knowing God. If you refuse to seek and learn about God then you have no one to blame but yourself. You can't ignore God all your life and then expect some kind of freebie because of it.

So no, I never said anyone can be saved without knowing Christ.