Christians:Is The Trinity Truly Biblical(A Separate Thread) (Jesus, priest)

[sojourner]

Originally Posted by Starfish

Oh so true! Why do Christians resist the simple answer? They have to admit it's so easy to understand and scripturally supported.
I think the reason for the resistance might be that to question the trinity, means you then have to question everything about your theology, and many aren't willing to go there. It's just easier to go with the mysteries-of-God attitude.

We resist the pat answers because they're usually wrong. Religion and theology are too deep for simple answers. Our faith requires a great amount of thought and soul-searching.

The Trinity is a good thing, precisely because it does call into question pre-conceived biases and notions, putting them to to test. You're right. Many aren't willing to go there. They'd rather find a "simple answer" to a difficult question. They'd rather have everythiing explained to them than learn to live with mystery, which might indicate that human beings aren't as knowledgeable or powerful as we thought.

Wouldn't the world just be a horrible place if we discovered that God is bigger than we're able to comprehend -- (no one has seen the face of God) -- that there just might be a mystery to God's Being, and that God reconciled us to God's Self by putting a human face on God's Divinity, so that some of the mystery could be dispelled; enough so that we would be able to claim grace? Wouldn't that be horrible? and a rotten thing for God to do to us?

[sojourner]

Paul referred to the apostles, which included himself. not st Patrick.

Actually, Patrick is every bit as much an apostle as Paul...

[sojourner]

There are no things past down from the apostles that are not in the bible.

You know, if you lift it up any higher, it just might overshadow God...

[sojourner]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

I never said anything from myself, I read the words of the people that are in the bible.

Besides who is St Patrick is he greater than christ to you?

Everything you say comes from yourself, since you process what you read through your own mind, and assign meaning to it. Who are you trying to kid?

Is the Bible greater than Christ to you?

[sojourner]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

I hope i was able to show and defend my stance.

The trinity is not biblical.

I'm sorry. We have some lovely parting gifts for you...

[Starfish]

Originally Posted by sojourner

And yet, when you married, you became one flesh. "One flesh" certainly sounds like less than a mulitplicity of beings to me... Your children (if you have them) are also part of the one being of what is known as your family, because they are flesh of your flesh. We understand that concept, yet we have trouble with the Trinity???

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here, because you seem to agree with me, then maybe not?
Your example of the family is exactly right. We are one unit, yet separate beings. The Godhead is even more united because they always completely agree with each other, as if they were of one mind, as one god. Yet they are separate beings.

Simple to understand.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by sojourner

Is the Bible greater than Christ to you?

Christ is in the bible, his teachings are in there and the verses that i read came from him. so, what kind of a question is that?


[quote=sojourner;1120226]Everything you say comes from yourself, since you process what you read through your own mind, and assign meaning to it. Who are you trying to kid?
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When paul "said keep to what is written" and St patrick is not written in the bible.
and i say patrick is not an apostle becasue he is not in the bible, how is that argument an assignment from an own mind?

Do you have another interpretation to the Paul instruction which is to "keep to which what is written?"

Are you going to say that the instrution "keep to what is written" mean using those that are not written as reference?

Who are you trying to kid?

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by sojourner

Actually, Patrick is every bit as much an apostle as Paul...

You are assigning you own interpretation. as far as who is an apostle.

Paul said:

1 Corinthians 4:9
For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

Do you interpret "last" as if it would mean someone will come next?

Your st patrick did not live until 400 AD.