Christians:Is The Trinity Truly Biblical(A Separate Thread) (Jesus, priest)

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

This is being debated on another thread and I know that it has probably been discussed to death but...
Is it? I never really questioned it until recently. Does the bible truly say that God is "Three Persons of One Essence"? I am not questioning whether Jesus is God because I still believe that with no question.
Any verses and explanations (I would prefer that verses also contain what you get from them if that is possible) are welcome.

I hope i was able to show and defend my stance.

The trinity is not biblical.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Michel07

St. Patrick to me was a Servant of the Lord. It seems to me you could at least dispense with the criticism and capitalize Christ. Christ I believe looks after His servants.

I have Christ's name capitalized in my heart. do you? or do you have ST. PATRICK'S?

where did you find out that your St Patrick is a servant of christ? he believed in unbiblical doctrine. anti-christian actually.

I am sorry, I am just reading the truth in the bible.

" do i offend you because i spake of the truth?"

[Michel07]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

I have Christ's name capitalized in my heart. do you? or do you have ST. PATRICK'S?

where did you find out that your St Patrick is a servant of christ? he believed in unbiblical doctrine. anti-christian actually.

I am sorry, I am just reading the truth in the bible.

" do i offend you because i spake of the truth?"

You do not offend me. But I am not the one that is important.
I do believe we shall all come to the Truth and some of It shall humble us and some of it shall give us great happiness.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Michel07

You do not offend me. But I am not the one that is important.
I do believe we shall all come to the Truth and some of It shall humble us and some of it shall give us great happiness.

and as you said "The question is how much do we know about it. the important thing is getting the proper veiwpoint"

I am giving you now is a different veiwpoint, what have you go to lose? when as a matter of fact you have everything to gain. trust in the lord, and you will never go wrong. Trust his words in the Bible, trust no one else's.

[ChristineES]

I once had this very odd discussion with a non-trinitarian on another Christian site; I told him that the Trinity could be explained by the way of water-- Ice, liquid, and steam-- 3 states, all H2O. He told me that that wasn't a trinitarian explanation but something called modalist (God in three modes). I had never heard of modalist (has anyone here?)

[Charity]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

I once had this very odd discussion with a non-trinitarian on another Christian site; I told him that the Trinity could be explained by the way of water-- Ice, liquid, and steam-- 3 states, all H2O. He told me that that wasn't a trinitarian explanation but something called modalist (God in three modes). I had never heard of modalist (has anyone here?)

Hi Christine! No I haven't heard of a modalist....but I think that must be a person who definitey discourages the Trinity.........

I am very confused in reading some of these posts as to how St. Patrick, who was the Patron St. of Ireland ended up in the Bible. This just blew my mind......Please someone tell me what He has to do with The Trinity?

[Jeremy Mason]

Ok I will try this again, uss-bigd, we agree that Jesus was without sin/perfect.
Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin.

Would you agree that the only Biblical entity that can be perfect is God?
Would you agree that the Father and the Holy Spirit are perfect as well?
If you say that all three are without sin and therefore perfect/ divine then they are one in divinity. Divinity=God

[sojourner]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

It is not enought that you mention that 'it is significant and discussed in numerrous occassions. you have to biblically prove that the trinity is significant. besides, this is a biblical debate.

Are you saying interpreted the verse incorrectly? how so? and what is the correct interpretation then?

you said "one cultural source'? explain that biblically.


this is a biblical debate, i wish to see verses. thank you!

Please don't try to trap me into a sola scriptura stance. Sola scriptura is a Reformation idea that is not found in the Bible. (Yet you seem to adhere to it!)

I believe there is significant biblical precedent for the Trinity. The doctrine arose directly from scripture, for Pete's sake. If you're looking for the word "Trinity," you won't find it, but that's not particularly important. What is important is that it is part of the apostles' teaching ... which, according to the Bible, we are to hold to.

I, for one, trust what the apostles have said. Do you?

[sojourner]

Originally Posted by Starfish

The trinity satisfies the concept that there is ONE god, but it doesn't explain all the many scriptures that indicate that The Father and Christ are separate beings. Any 6-year-old would assume that Jesus wasn't praying to himself and might laugh at anyone who thought he was.
I've always wondered why the trinitarians focus on a lesser amount of verses that sound like The Father, Christ, and the Holy Ghost are one, and ignore the greater amount of scriptures that sound otherwise.
Especially when there's a logical explanation that satisfies ALL the scriptures.

They are separate beings, yet ONE in purpose and mission. If you hear from one, you've heard from them all. One represents the others. They are totally united; just as I am united with my husband. Yet we, and they, are separate beings. Totally logical, yet rejected by mainstream Christianity. Why is that?