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Old 03-17-2008, 09:13 PM
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Again, you are authenticating the Christian Bible ! That is not what uss_bigd is asking
Practices of faith are what defines a faith and Christianity defines it's practices through the Bible. So, yes, i did answer his question and uss-bigd gave me a.
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:34 PM
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I generally don't like it when someone just posts a scripture without any comment, and assumes that anyone with any common sense or intelligence at all will interpret it the same way he does. But right now, I'm going to do just that...

Mark 9:38-40 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part.

Luke 9:49-50 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
yup.. that is correct some of the people of whom those verses refers to are these people:

Ezekiel 9:4
And the LORD said to him, "Pass through the city, through Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and groan over all the abominations that are committed in it."

"those who are not against us are for us" Jesus said.

those who sighs and groans over all abominations are not agains God, hence they were marked. and in so that they can be saved.

Remember? "God judges those from the outside"


I hope people see how consistent the wisdom in the bible is, all through out from the old to the new testament
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:40 PM
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I generally don't like it when someone just posts a scripture without any comment, and assumes that anyone with any common sense or intelligence at all will interpret it the same way he does. But right now, I'm going to do just that...

Mark 9:38-40 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part.

Luke 9:49-50 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

by the way, it is not my explainations of what is written that will make anyone understand it is this:
  1. Job 28:28
    And he said to man,'Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom,and to turn away from evil is understanding.'"
  2. Psalm 111:10
    The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom;all those who practice it have a good understanding.His praise endures forever!
  3. Isaiah 11:2
    And the Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him,the Spirit of wisdom and understanding,the Spirit of counsel and might,the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD.
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Old 03-18-2008, 01:07 AM
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I can assure you that I do not get my idea of Jesus from the NT or the OT
Then ... it's not Jesus?
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by the way, it is not my explainations of what is written that will make anyone understand it is this:
  1. Job 28:28
    And he said to man,'Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom,and to turn away from evil is understanding.'"
  2. Psalm 111:10
    The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom;all those who practice it have a good understanding.His praise endures forever!
  3. Isaiah 11:2
    And the Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him,the Spirit of wisdom and understanding,the Spirit of counsel and might,the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD.
I understand.
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Then ... it's not Jesus?
Why is that the only two books that Yeshua is in? Most certainly not.
On that note I think I should bow out of this discussion as I have noticed it is under 'Same Faith Debates' and I am not a Christian . . . excuse me.
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Define "the same Jesus Christ."
How about...

1. The Only Begotten Son of God...
2. who was born to a virgin...
3. whose birth was prophesied by the prophets of old.
4. The only perfect man to have ever walked the earth...
5. teaching a gospel of love and mercy.
5. The Redeemer of mankind, who gave His life to pay for our sins...
6. Dying on the cross and asking His Father to forgive His murderers.
7. The risen Lord, who conquered death...
8. and who returned to His Father to prepare a place for each of us.
9. The One who will return to the earth in glory someday...
10. And reconcile us to His Father, to be eternally wrapped in the arms of His love.
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