Do differences in practices of faith mean we follow the same Jesus Christ? (reject, gospel)

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

1 Corinthians 4:9
" For I think that God hath set forth us the apostleslast, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men."

What is a synonym for LAST? you can only get out of this if you have your own dictionary sir.

1 Cor 4:6

And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

Paul explicitly said "do not think of men aobve that which is written"

Paul also wrote to the Galatians:

Galatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

So, will this mean there are other references to the Gospel of Christ? remember, ""do not think of men aobve that which is written."



He referred to the Prophets he sent, those prophets who were consistent to his righteousness.

Keep in mind the Apostle's ( LASTapostles) warning

1. Matthew 7:15
   Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
2. Matthew 24:11
   And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
3. Matthew 24:24
   For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
4. Mark 13:22
   For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
5. Luke 6:26
   Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
6. 2 Peter 2:1
   But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
7. 1 John 4:1
   Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

How can we be guided then? how do we know whats true or false?


1 Cor 4:6

And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

If i may repost....

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

sigh! it explicitly stated the apostles were sent LAST. check a synonym, a synonym is End

are you kidding? This is exactly what I mean about fanciful interpretation.

Let's pretend your fanciful interpretation is once again correct, it STILL does not mean there was an end to the Apostles, only and end to things being sent!!!

Honestly, this is getting beyond remedial. Think for a minute about this before you barf up the same garbage.

so? KEEP means TRUST? what language do you speak?

WHAt IS WRITTEN means things that aren't written? geez!

what kind of a 'comprehension" do you have?

Your argument is retarded and you aren't understanding the words I am using (sorry but this is getting old). I didn't argue what you are attempting to responding to. Would you like to try again or admit failure?

NOW, SINCE YOU PROFESS TO BE WISE. PROVE THAT IT IS BIBLICAL THAT THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES. PROVE THAT IT IS NOT YOUR FANCIFULL INTERPRETATION THAT SAYS THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES.

uh, where did I profess to be wise? and why would you think that would shift the burden of proof to me? You are the goof ball that made the claim, it's YOUR job to prove it. so far you are doing a smashing job...

AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED. LAST MEANS END. AND kEEP MEANS REMAIN. MAINTAIN, STAY. CONTINUE ON. AND NOT TRUST.

We are clear on what you *think*... so far you don't have any evidence for it.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Comprehend

Let's pretend your fanciful interpretation is once again correct, it STILL does not mean there was an end to the Apostles, only and end to things being sent!!!

I agree it refers to the end tothe things beings sent, and what are those things being sent? actually they're people. read:

1 Corinthians 4:9 (KJV)
For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

1 Corinthians 4:9 (NIV)
For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like men condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to men.

Originally Posted by Comprehend

Honestly, this is getting beyond remedial. Think for a minute about this before you barf up the same garbage.

look whose talking

Your argument is retarded and you aren't understanding the words I am using (sorry but this is getting old). I didn't argue what you are attempting to responding to. Would you like to try again or admit failure?

look whose talking?

uh, where did I profess to be wise? and why would you think that would shift the burden of proof to me? You are the goof ball that made the claim, it's YOUR job to prove it. so far you are doing a smashing job...

tsk! tsk! I have proved that biblically speaking there shouldn't be any sources aside from the bible because the apostles were sent last. all you have said is i interpreted incorrectly, but yiu have failed to interpret it otherwise.

"For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last"

Just answer the Question HOW CAN YOU INTERPRET THIS SENTENCE TO MEAN THAT SOMEONE CAME AFTER THE APOSTLES???

We are clear on what you *think*... so far you don't have any evidence for it.

EVIDENCE? YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS WHERE CAN I SEE IN THE BIBLE THAT THE ONLY SOURCE OF CHRIST'S TEACHINGS IS THE BIBLE. THE ONLY EVIDENCE I NEED IS A BIBLICAL VERSE

[sojourner]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

he did mention the nicene creed, in one of the 4 threads we are sparring with eachother.

In a nutshell, i read the bible, interpret it as it is written. and sojourner interprets it the way his creed or council taught him to.

so is that sane? reading comprehension focuses on the material being read... period!

The point I'm trying to make here is that you seem to take the admonishment to "keep to what is written" literalistically. That's fine. but if that's your position, why don't you do it faithfully? The gospels were not written when Paul wrote that statement, yet you "stick to them." Extending your line of reasoning, if I'm silly for relying on a later writing, such as the Nicene Creed, to inform my theology, why aren't you silly for relying on a later writing, such as John's gospel, to inform your theology? The reasoning should apply across the board to all later writings to which Paul does not refer in Corinthians.

[sojourner]

The pearls refer to the word of God, as as i can recall i am the one who persistently threw "pearls" at you. who is the swine now?

The "pearls" refer to solid Biblical scholarship, which I have given to you. What you have regurgitated has nothing to do with Biblical scholarship.

[sojourner]

There are hundred denominations today because most sects are just after money!!

I'd like to see this statement backed up with solid evidence (doesn't include Biblical eisegesis). There is not one legitimate Christian denomination that exists "just to make money." Check with the IRS. All of them are 501.c non-profits. Case closed.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by sojourner

The point I'm trying to make here is that you seem to take the admonishment to "keep to what is written" literalistically. That's fine. but if that's your position, why don't you do it faithfully? The gospels were not written when Paul wrote that statement, yet you "stick to them." Extending your line of reasoning, if I'm silly for relying on a later writing, such as the Nicene Creed, to inform my theology, why aren't you silly for relying on a later writing, such as John's gospel, to inform your theology? The reasoning should apply across the board to all later writings to which Paul does not refer in Corinthians.

The apostles was lived in one time period. didn't you know that Peter was the person named Cephas in the letters of Paul?

I will not accept anything that was not written by the apostles. i will remain within what they written because i dont want to fall under this verse;

Matthew 15:9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Only the apostles can write the words of God because they are the only ones who lived and had contact with Jesus Christ!