Do differences in practices of faith mean we follow the same Jesus Christ? (reject, gospel)

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

I'm pretty sure Paul took care of that one for us:



1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
9For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.' "[a] 12So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. 13Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. 14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food[b] is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men. 19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall. 22So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

What is your point sir?

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

What is your point sir?

Whether one eats meat is not important. Loving each other is.

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

1 Corinthians 4:9
For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

There shouldn't be anyone who comes next to the apostles, the apostles who lived with Christ. proof?

1 Corinthians 4:6
6And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

It is pretty clear sir, the early christians was instructed not to think of men above that which is writte.

and.... according to those scriptures,

How do you figure that the Bible is the "only reference where the life and teachings of Christ can be found"?

The verses you provided don't even say there is supposed to be an end to Apostles, let alone that the (at that time) non-existant bible was the ONLY reference where the life and teachings of Christ could be found.

Amos 3:7
7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

What is your point sir?

Lunamoth is a girl.

You can tell by the little pink symbol in the corner...

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by Comprehend

Lunamoth is a girl.

You can tell by the little pink symbol in the corner...

Well dang, so I am.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

yup, sorry Katspur.

No need to apologize.

that is what is written...

No, that's what you're reading into what's written. If you believe there were to be no more apostles other than the original twelve, then why were there? Why were Matthias, James (the brother of Jesus), and Paul all called to the apostleship after Jesus' death? With these three, we have a total of 15 men who were known to be Apostles. Why did Paul say (in Ephesians 4:11-14) that Christ built His church on a foundation of prophets and apostles and that these were to remain in place "until we all come in unity of the faith"? Do you think we're there yet? I don't. In Luke 11:49, Jesus Christ himself said that He would send prophets and apostles. He was speaking in future tense. He had already called the original Twelve. Why would He say that He intended to call others if that was not the case?

[Michel07]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

I'm pretty sure Paul took care of that one for us:



1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
9For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.' "[a] 12So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. 13Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. 14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food[b] is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men. 19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall. 22So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

I really believe this scripture speaks volumes about not being so judgemental and consequently divisive in matters that are between one servant and God and another servant and God.

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

Two contradicting doctrines cannot be both true. If i may site an example:

Catholics: you can eat anything you want.
7th day adventis: you cannot eat pork.

even without being biblical these doctrines cannot sensibly come from the same source. hence following different Christs, as forewarned by Matthew(24:24)

Would you mind explaining how what you wrote addresses my point?

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Comprehend

The verses you provided don't even say there is supposed to be an end to Apostles, let alone that the (at that time) non-existant bible was the ONLY reference where the life and teachings of Christ could be found.

1 Corinthians 4:9
" For I think that God hath set forth us the apostleslast, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men."

What is a synonym for LAST? you can only get out of this if you have your own dictionary sir.

1 Cor 4:6

And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

Paul explicitly said "do not think of men aobve that which is written"

Paul also wrote to the Galatians:

Galatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

So, will this mean there are other references to the Gospel of Christ? remember, ""do not think of men aobve that which is written."

Originally Posted by Comprehend

Amos 3:7
7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

He referred to the Prophets he sent, those prophets who were consistent to his righteousness.

Keep in mind the Apostle's ( LASTapostles) warning

1. Matthew 7:15
   Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.