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03-07-2008, 02:31 PM
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Atheists only - does existence precede essence, or essence precede existence?
Atheists only - does existence precede essence, or essence precede existence?
The following quotes can be helpful: Existence preceding essence is seen in Kierkegaard's Repetition, where his literary character Young Man laments: How did I get into the world? Why was I not asked about it and why was I not informed of the rules and regulations but just thrust into the ranks as if I had been bought by a peddling shanghaier of human beings? How did I get involved in this big enterprise called actuality? Why should I be involved? Isn't it a matter of choice? And if I am compelled to be involved, where is the manager—I have something to say about this. Is there no manager? To whom shall I make my complaint?[6] "Sartre, in Essays in Existentialism, further highlights this consciousness of being thrown into existence in the following fashion: "If man, as the existentialist conceives him, is indefinable, it is because at first he is nothing. Only afterward will he be something, and he himself will have made what he will be."" "An older view was that essence precedes existence, so that "being human" might bind a person to such phrase's a priori definitions and connotations, and determining such meanings was seen as a central project of philosophy. " Any thoughts?
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#2
03-07-2008, 07:10 PM
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Either/neither precedes the other.
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It's less of a world take over and more of a world make over. - Dr. Phineas Waldolf Steel Brad Chat
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#3
03-07-2008, 07:14 PM
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Essence is for suckers.
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#4
03-07-2008, 07:22 PM
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Can one exist without the other?
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#5
03-07-2008, 07:26 PM
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my thinking is that they wouldn't happen without each other
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go within I go without THERE IS ONLY ONE OF US
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#6
03-07-2008, 07:32 PM
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#7
03-07-2008, 08:35 PM
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If we insisted on essence, though, it would have to go hand-in-hand with existence, and neither would precede the other.
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#8
03-10-2008, 11:52 AM
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I basically agree with Sartre.
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#9
03-11-2008, 02:19 AM
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Interesting thread. Very revealing. But I'm not an atheist so I'll butt-out.
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03-11-2008, 02:26 AM
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