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Old 03-11-2008, 06:50 AM
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In essence, I have always and will always exist. Time is relative and therefore relatively meaningless.
What is "you" changes every day.
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Old 03-11-2008, 07:36 AM
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And how is it that you distinguish the two?
Existence is the quality of "being" or "beingness"; essence is the substance of existence, or "what exists". So the question becomes "does beingness precede your being," and of course the answer is "neither precedes the other." Once you be, there you are.
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Existence is the quality of "being" or "beingness"; essence is the substance of existence, or "what exists". So the question becomes "does beingness precede your being," and of course the answer is "neither precedes the other." Once you be, there you are.
In other words, existence is essence. And also the reason I find the thread revealing.
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Old 03-12-2008, 06:36 AM
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Existence is the quality of "being" or "beingness"; essence is the substance of existence, or "what exists". So the question becomes "does beingness precede your being," and of course the answer is "neither precedes the other." Once you be, there you are.
I wouldn't say "of course", see the first post for classic examples of existential thought, maybe there is no automatic essense, i.e. you have to create your own.
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:30 AM
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I wouldn't say "of course", see the first post for classic examples of existential thought, maybe there is no automatic essense, i.e. you have to create your own.
Yeah; I don't get Kierkegaard. Never have. I like Sartre, but I would say rather that Man not only brings himself into being, but the formed world, too (i.e. the physical body, the mental entity and everything "outside" it, etc).
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What is "you" changes every day.
Of course it does, my awareness of "self" continues to expand and I don't see that ever ceasing. So, your point is?
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Atheists only - does existence precede essence, or essence precede existence?
I have no idea what you are asking. Is it important?
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I have no idea what you are asking. Is it important?
This is an old philosophical question which basically asks which came first, the fact that your are, or "what" you are. For those who believe in reincarnation, and possibly the spirit world, essence may well come before existence. Most people think that "what" you are is developed after you come into existence.
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