Christians: Female Involvement in Ministry (priest, Earth, elder, disciples)

[tomspug]

It is not the Biblical pattern. It is the worldly pattern simply because men tend to DESIRE to lead more than women. This doesn't mean ALL women have no desire to lead.

In fact, there ARE biblical examples of women leaders. One of the spiritual leaders of Israel was a woman. Two books of the Bible are focused on woman role models.

[Scott C.]

Originally Posted by tomspug

It is not the Biblical pattern. It is the worldly pattern simply because men tend to DESIRE to lead more than women. This doesn't mean ALL women have no desire to lead.

In fact, there ARE biblical examples of women leaders. One of the spiritual leaders of Israel was a woman. Two books of the Bible are focused on woman role models.

But, do you believe that there was priesthood in the Old Testament and do you believe women were specifically ordained to that priesthood in the OT?

[tomspug]

Originally Posted by Scott C.

But, do you believe that there was priesthood in the Old Testament and do you believe women were specifically ordained to that priesthood in the OT?

No. The priesthood falls specifically to the tribe of Levi. I don't see a correlation between being a leader and being a Jewish priest.

Edit: Ah, I understand your point.

[Ratiocinative]

As with the verses already posted, the Bible clearly prohibits women serving in positions of spiritual leadership over men. There's no way to debate against it unless you're willing to say that Bible isn't the inspired word of God. Perhaps the reason why some people reject these versus is because they think it is a bash against women, which it isn't. The Bible never says that women are inferior to men or incapable of being leaders, in fact it says that all are equal in the sight of God and that God has no favorites. God has simply appointed men and women to different roles in the church. Appointing women to positions of spiritual leadership is clearly prohibited in Biblical teachings.

[happ]

Many Catholics disagree with the Church teaching that only men can be ordained into the priesthood. Nuns play a strong role [even running a parish when no pastor is available] yet cannot preach or celebrate Mass. There were women deacons/deaconess in the early Church [some are saints in the Catholic Church] yet this is not allowed when we need all the resources possible to reach the faithful.

I have many Lutheran family members & once met a female Lutheran pastor. I was really impressed with her ability to preach and chant the Holy Communion.

[Captain Civic]

Originally Posted by Ratiocinative

As with the verses already posted, the Bible clearly prohibits women serving in positions of spiritual leadership over men.

If you read it without the social context. Not to mention about ten verses down Paul talks about women prophesying, which he has no troubles with (unless they don't have their head covered.)

[sojourner]

Misogyny has absolutely no place in the Church.