Believers in Hell only - Accidental Overdose (ritual, punishment, gospel)

[Francine]

Originally Posted by Ratiocinative

The Bible lists characteristics of unsaved people:

• homosexual offenses

Guess what? No one is saved until Christ opens the book of Life and sees who is written there.

[Ratiocinative]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

[/list]You left pride and being judgmental off your list.

Though it was never intended to be a complete list, pride would fall under selfish ambition and being judgmental is not spoken against in the Bible.

[Captain Civic]

Originally Posted by Ratiocinative

being judgmental is not spoken against in the Bible.

Methinks you should research that.

[Ratiocinative]

Originally Posted by Captain Civic

Methinks you should research that.

To be judgmental means to declare something that someone did as right or wrong, so with Biblical support it is perfect fine, infact encouraged, to point out to someone when they are doing wrong. Besides Jesus, the main point of the Bible is to point out what is right and wrong, and Jesus certainly made many judgmental statements against the Pharisees and the Sadducees. To judge, on the other hand, means to pass sentence upon. To say that someone should not have a chance to be forgiven and should goto hell is the kind of judging we are not to do.

[Captain Civic]

Matt 7:3-5
7:3 Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? 7:4 Or how can you say to your neighbor, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' while the log is in your own eye? 7:5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye.

I think we have to be careful about how we do it, though.

[sandy whitelinger]

Originally Posted by Abdon

... death by misadventure.

I like it.

[billabong]

What have you read that makes you think that you get another chance to repent after death. Also Hell is for the many Paradise is for the few. You got it alittle backwards.

[Ratiocinative]

Originally Posted by Captain Civic

Matt 7:3-5
7:3 Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? 7:4 Or how can you say to your neighbor, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' while the log is in your own eye? 7:5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye.

I think we have to be careful about how we do it, though.

Yes, when pointing out someone's sin it should be done in a manner appropriate to the situation. If you point out someone else's sin in a condescending way it would be a sin for you, but not because you pointed out their sin but because of your pride while doing so. The Bible tells us what is right and what is wrong, so you should not be willing to compromise telling others plainly what God has said just because it makes them uncomfortable. Their own sin is the cause of their guilt, so if they want to stop feeling guilty then perhaps they should stop sinning.

[Captain Civic]

True. I think a little prodding is necessary, but only occasionally. And when it's done, it better be concise and humbled.

For the most part, I think we are all accountable ourselves to God. In the end, you can't make someone see the speck in their eye.

[Michel07]

Originally Posted by Abdon

It's not technically suicide, in law it would be known as death by misadventure.

With regards to God he judges the spirit so if suicide was not intended he would not consider it suicide imo.

Hi , I might add to these comments that the Catechism of the Catholic Church also advises us not to despair for the salvation of one who really does commit suicide as salvation is still possible in ways known only to God. I like this view as it really does give God the the glory and the power without trying to tie his hands and I believe reflects His mercy and great love.