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Old 03-23-2008, 11:40 PM
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2 Pet 5-9
5And besides this, using all diligence, add to your
faith virtue, and to virtue knowledge,

6and to knowledge temperance, and to temperance
patience, and to patience godliness,

7and to godliness brotherly kindness, and to
brotherly kindness charity.

8For if these things be in you and abound, they
make you that ye shall be neither barren nor
unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9But he that lacketh these things is blind and
cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was
purged from his old sins
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Old 03-25-2008, 10:22 AM
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verses to prove your explaination???
This is a typical sola scriptura sort of response. I will not be forced into such a stance.
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Old 03-25-2008, 10:23 AM
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2 Pet 5-9
5And besides this, using all diligence, add to your
faith virtue, and to virtue knowledge,

6and to knowledge temperance, and to temperance
patience, and to patience godliness,

7and to godliness brotherly kindness, and to
brotherly kindness charity.

8For if these things be in you and abound, they
make you that ye shall be neither barren nor
unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9But he that lacketh these things is blind and
cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was
purged from his old sins
And this would have to do with ... what, exactly?
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:55 PM
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And this would have to do with ... what, exactly?

you will figure it out...
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you will figure it out...
So ... what are you saying? That you know something -- some biblical tenet -- that I don't? And this is something that, for my own growth, I have to figure out for myself? You can't tell me what it is?

Logs, motes and eyeballs.

I just thought we were talking about baptism. This passage has nothing to do with baptism.
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So ... what are you saying? That you know something -- some biblical tenet -- that I don't? And this is something that, for my own growth, I have to figure out for myself? You can't tell me what it is?

Logs, motes and eyeballs.

I just thought we were talking about baptism. This passage has nothing to do with baptism.
it has something to do with you sayinh all you need is faith alone
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On two or three Christian forums I post at, we are having numerous debates about how one is saved.

I believe that each person alive is called and it is up to each person to answer the call.

The conflicting belief is that only people God has chosen to be called are called and anyone who doesn't become saved is because God didn't choose them to be saved.

So I am wondering what the Christians at the RF believe. Do you believe anyone can be saved or only those chosen by God to be saved?
Christine the Bible tells us that God would have it that no one should perish. He calls us through the Holy Spirit, Jesus said in John 3:3 Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God
Romans 10:13 For whosoever call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved
All you have to do is take Him at his word and claim that promise.
Everyone can be saved....He didn't say I will save one, I will save 500 He said All can be saved.......We have freewill, we ourselves have the ability to accept or reject him...The Bible says in Romans 3:23 All has sinned, and come short of the glory of God. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. The only way not to be saved is by not accepting Jesus. Jesus said there is one way to the Father (God) and that is Jesus.

It seems complicated but it is really simple, just believe in Jesus and accept him as Lord and Saviour.
People get what we call that old time conviction, like when you do something you have done all your life and all of a sudden you feel that it is wrong, that is The Holy Spirit telling you, and drawing you to make that change in your life, and that change is getting saved. We walk by Faith not by sight. Sometime, someplace the Holy Spirit deals with each individual..

I saw on your avatar that your a Christian, and I just pray that maybe I have been able to give you some information that you can use.......

Don't take my word or anyone else's always read the bible and prove it for yourself, Amen, Amen..............In Christian Love Charity
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:38 PM
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it has something to do with you sayinh all you need is faith alone
What we need is God. What we need is to cultivate a relationship with God. Of necessity, that relationship is based upon faith (as opposed to proof). Because of God's relationship with us (which, because of the Incarnation, is one of reconciliation [which you will never understand, because your theology is not informed by the doctrine of the Trinity]), we stand reconciled. All of us.
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[which you will never understand, because your theology is not informed by the doctrine of the Trinity]), we stand reconciled. All of us.
So, i should believe you more than the bible? Where are the alternative interpretations that i asked for?

I am not talking to please anyone here. i know i speak of the truth for it is written.


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What we need is God. What we need is to cultivate a relationship with God. Of necessity, that relationship is based upon faith (as opposed to proof). Because of God's relationship with us (which, because of the Incarnation, is one of reconciliation .

are you saying we can be saved by faith alone? and baptism or good works or church or religion is necessary?
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