A Question for fellow Christians. (Jesus, Moses, Earth, gospel)

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

how would it undermine your relationship with God? it doesn't matter anways because you're saved already.

Stop and think about this for a minute, MH... Sojourner's perspective isn't too awfully different from ours in this regard. He believes everyone will end up in Heaven. We believe that the vast, vast majority of people will end up in Heaven. Isn't it kind of refreshing to hear that there are Christians who actually believe that God loves us that much!

[dawny0826]

I believe we choose life or death. I believe salvation is extended to us all. Perhaps, we've already been "elected" in the sense that God knows our hearts and knows what we will choose but I believe the choice has been given to us.

[Francine]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Stop and think about this for a minute, MH... Sojourner's perspective isn't too awfully different from ours in this regard. He believes everyone will end up in Heaven. We believe that the vast, vast majority of people will end up in Heaven.

Jesus says a slim minority end up in Heaven.

Matt.7:[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Francine

Jesus says a slim minority end up in Heaven.

Matt.7:[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

If you interpret "life" to mean Heaven, that's what He said. To us, that's not what it means. We believe that "life" refers to the "fullness of eternal life," or Exaltation. It would probably not be an overstatement to say that a slim minority will end up being exalted.

[Francine]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

If you interpret "life" to mean Heaven, that's what He said. To us, that's not what it means. We believe that "life" refers to the "fullness of eternal life," or Exaltation. It would probably not be an overstatement to say that a slim minority will end up being exalted.

While the bible affirms different degrees of glory, according to our works, and Catholics affirm a period of purgation prior to being admitted to the Beatific Vision, in the end, a person's name is either written in the Book of Life, or they are not written there. And that results in passing to Christ's left hand, or to his right. There is no Door Number Three.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

I believe that each person alive is called and it is up to each person to answer the call.

That's pretty much what I believe.

Being Called/Chosen in the NT
My threads against Calvinism

[Mister Emu]

I believe we all end up in God's love... whether that love is bliss or torment depends on us...

[sojourner]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

how would it undermine your relationship with God? it doesn't matter anways because you're saved already.

"Being saved" does not release me from the responsibility of loving God and loving my neighbor. In fact, it increases that responsibility. Why? Because, as a Child of God, I am also a servant of God -- bound to God's will. That relationship would be seriously undermined if I failed to love my neighbor in such a fashion. By not loving my neighbor, I do not love God (When you did it to one of the least of these, you did it to me).

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by sojourner

In fact, it increases that responsibility.

If this is true, Christians will have a tougher judgment day.