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Old 12-16-2007, 10:30 AM
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Oh, you could have specified who. Yes, thats goog. But what is hte point of giving him diamonds and precious gems when that money spent on that could be used for better. A religious establisment can do good for society. BAPS has done so, they can do so much more.
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:44 AM
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Money is spen on lifting humanity too. Dont worry. The original Sampraday does so much for society. BAPS just advertise it more. They own shares in Media establishments like Garvi Gujrat even.

yeh we give diamonds to God as this is Rasik bhakti.
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God does what with those diamonds? Love us more because we give him diamonds?
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:48 AM
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why do you worship God? Why do you bow to him? Why do you offer him incense, holy light etc? same thing. Why do you apply Tilak to yoursel? For the satsangi this is all Bhakti. It increases their love for god.
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Exactly, i do all this.
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Old 12-16-2007, 11:01 AM
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You do it by not accepting the word of God though. Which makes all you do devoid of what you do. Vachanamrut states so.

Bavas in inida love God. they smoke weed take cannabis, snuff in His name etc. God does not accept his followers to doi this. Are you telling me they are right siimply because they Love God? they do not foolow His word. Just like BAPS do not.
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Doesent make it devoid, AT ALL. You know, those people who get high wouldnt go, true, its says in the shikshapatri is to not take any intoxianctd in your body. But they have love for god. That is what god wants. Hinduism is more a way of life then a religion. I live my life by hinduism, you love by swaminarayan. I go to any hindu mandir find it the same for me. Hinduism is very personal, a lot of schools of thoughts are are actually theories. I am following the theory i wish to be right. At the end of the day, god looks at your character, and NOT your religion.
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Old 12-18-2007, 02:16 PM
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Doesent make it devoid, AT ALL. You know, those people who get high wouldnt go, true, its says in the shikshapatri is to not take any intoxianctd in your body. But they have love for god. That is what god wants. Hinduism is more a way of life then a religion. I live my life by hinduism, you love by swaminarayan. I go to any hindu mandir find it the same for me. Hinduism is very personal, a lot of schools of thoughts are are actually theories. I am following the theory i wish to be right. At the end of the day, god looks at your character, and NOT your religion..

Yes it does make it devoid. The Vachnamrut clearly states that such Bhakti is “vyarth”. Which means its devoid and useless. So if you do not follow/accept the word of God as it is, then the so-called Bhakti you do is devoid and not accepted by God. So you say these people who get intoxicated in the name of God and use that as a way to love God when God states they shouldn’t do this are fine in doing so? That God accepts their Bhakti? You need to read the Purans my friend. Not just that but the scriptures of Swaminarayan Bhagwan too. You seem lost. The sanatan dharm is not more of a way of life rather than a faith at all. I think you need to do more research into it. Its more about how to rid yourself of Maya and becoming brahm status and Loving God in his prescribed way. God looks at an Ekantik Bhakt not your character. You come out with childish remarks. How old are you?

You state the Sikshapatri but the Sikshapatri also states:

“My Bhramin, Kshatriya and Vaishya followers who have received Shri Krshna Diksha (initiation) from the Dharmavanshi (descendants of Dharmadev) Acharyas, shall wear a double tulsi kanthi (rosary) around their neck and shall wear a U-shaped tilak on their forehead, chest, and both harms.” (Shikshapatri Shlok 41)

In the Shikshapatri (62), Swaminarayan Bhagwan clearly states
“And the form of Shri Krshna that has been given by your Acharya for the purpose of your worship and the forms that the Acharya has installed (i.e. in the mandirs) are the only forms of God worthy of worship. The rest are worthy of respect but not worthy of worship”
Therefore, the only murtis (deities) worthy of worship are those installed by the Acharyas.


Shlok 71:
“All my followers shall never enter into debate with their Acharyas and shall serve the Acharyas with food, clothing, money etc according to their capacity.”

Shlok 72:
“Upon hearing of their coming, my followers should immediately go to greet and welcome the arrival of their Acharyas, and when the Acharya returns from the town my followers shall see them off to the outskirts of the town.”


So do you follow them?
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God has told us that His devotees should contribute 1/10th if you are of normal wealth and 1/5th if you are poor to Him.
Just a quick question: Why are the poor asked to contribute twice as much proportionally?
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Just a quick question: Why are the poor asked to contribute twice as much proportionally?

I think he mans half WO.
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