Muslims: difference between Nabi & Resul (Earth, beliefs, mission, prophet)

lava · #1 10-10-2007, 11:36 PM

Selam my brothers and sisters,

here i like to talk about the difference between the concepts of Nebi and Resul.
in todays' society, people claim Nabi and Resul mean the same. but they don't. in time, citizens of Islamic nations followed commentaries of people instead of the Holy Book Qur'an.

i knopw there are real messengers of Allah Almighty who give their all lives with pleasure to serve Allah. those are the ones who were given duties from Allah Almighty. i donot confuse them with people who claims they're men of God.

Nebi is subjet of makaam of Nubuvvet. Nabi means Prophet. Muhammed (PBUH) is the last Nabi of all.

33 / AL AHZAP – 40: Muhammed (PBUH) is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the Last (Seal) of the Nabis (Prophets); and Allah is All-Knower of all things.

according to Al Ahzap:40 makaam of Nubuvvet was sealed. Allah Almighty does not say: “Muhammad (PBUH) is the last resul (messenger) and the last nabi (prophet).” Allah Almighty says: “Muhammad (PBUH) is the resul (messenger) of Allah and the last prophet (nabi), Hatam-ul Anbiya.”

Resul is subject of makaam of Risalet. Resul means messenger. if it was said Resullulah that means "messenger of Allah"

in all times of world history there've always been Resuls. today there are Resuls all around the world. a man cannot announce himself a Resul. only Allah Almighty choses whoever it wants.

most of the Muslims call Resuls "liars" because they think Resul and Nabi are the same concept. Resuls arenot prophets. but Nabis are Prophets and they are also messengers of Allah, naturally.

16 / AN-NAHL - 36: For We assuredly sent (appointed) amongst every People (tribe) a messenger so they become servants and avoid the Satanic Way (TAGUT, man and jinn demons). Some of them (those who depended on a messenger) attained HIDAYAT (the true guidance leading to Allah) and some of them (those who did not depend on a messenger) were inevitably (established) in DALALET (misguidance). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).

10 / YÛNUS - 47: Every nation (people) has been sent a messenger. When their messenger came to them, they were judged between them with justice. They are not treated unjustly.

14 / IBRAHIM - 4: There is no Messenger that We sent except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. So Allah leaves those (who do not wish to reach Allah) whom He pleases in DALALET (Misguidance), and guides whom He pleases to Himself (HIDAYAT= True Guidance leading to Allah). He is Exalted in power, the All-Wise.

in these verses, Allah Almighty didnt use the word Nabi for a reason. because however Nabis were sent for all humankind (and Jinns) they werenot sent in every nation. but messengers, Resuls were sent to every nation. a Resul among them who speak the language of the certain nation. today in every nation there are Resuls who explains Islam and invites people to the religion of Allah. this process of messengers has never ended.

thank you for your time

neves · #2 10-12-2007, 03:44 AM

Wow those ideas seems very common with the Submitter group... just curious, are you a submitter lava?

God's Messenger of the Covenant, the truth, the covenant, the issues, the proofs, the duties and the Quran.God in Islam (Submission in English),Islam (Submission). Your best source for Islam on the Intenet. Happiness is submission to God-Allah, God,

EiNsTeiN · #3 10-12-2007, 05:18 AM

oops!

Those indeed seem very common with the "Quran Only" Guys.!

if you are really a submitter Lava, then open this thread in the Quran Only subforum...Not to get people confused

lava · #4 10-12-2007, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by neves

Wow those ideas seems very common with the Submitter group... just curious, are you a submitter lava?

God's Messenger of the Covenant, the truth, the covenant, the issues, the proofs, the duties and the Quran.God in Islam (Submission in English),Islam (Submission). Your best source for Islam on the Intenet. Happiness is submission to God-Allah, God,

i donot know what submitter means. in case it is the name of the one who surrenders to Allah then yes, i am the 3rd level of hidayet.
these arenot 'ideas', it is the Holy Book Qur'an.

lava · #5 10-12-2007, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by EiNsTeiN

oops!

Those indeed seem very common with the "Quran Only" Guys.!

if you are really a submitter Lava, then open this thread in the Quran Only subforum...Not to get people confused

Bible, Tavrat and Qur'an were given by Allah Almighty. they all explained the religion of Allah which is Islam=surrender. it is named as religion of Abraham. therefor this board suits very well. in other words i am willing to send for everyone who has book.

EiNsTeiN · #6 10-12-2007, 09:58 AM

Yeah, language wise, we are all submitters (since we are muslims)...But ideology wise, submitters referres to those who believe in the Quran only, or sometimes referred to as "Quranic"

Quranic muslims are those who dont believe in the prophet's sunna and in the Ahadeeth...And one of their beliefs is what you are mentioning here in the thread

lava · #7 10-12-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EiNsTeiN

Yeah, language wise, we are all submitters (since we are muslims)...But ideology wise, submitters referres to those who believe in the Quran only, or sometimes referred to as "Quranic"

Quranic muslims are those who dont believe in the prophet's sunna and in the Ahadeeth...And one of their beliefs is what you are mentioning here in the thread

if you're Muslim that makes you "Amenu"---a believer
submissions is more than that.

there are no different kinds of Islam. there is only one and it is written in the Book Qur'an.

42 / ASH – SHÛRA - 13: Saying, “Establish religion and make no divisions in it,” He (Allah) has ordained the same religion for you as that which We ordained for Noah - that which We have revealed to you - and that which We ordained for Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. The thing (invitation to Allah and to have faith in Allah) to which you invited was hard for those MUSHRIK (those who attribute a partner to Allah). Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases and guides (takes) unto Himself those who turn to Him.

all the Muslims who follows command of Allah Almighty do care for Sunnah of Muhammed (PBUH) for example we go for salaat 7 times a day. that's Sunnah. we go fasting every thursday, that is Sunnah too. it is out of question to avoid Sunnah of Habibullah.

EiNsTeiN · #8 10-12-2007, 07:42 PM

Sure, and as I told you, we are all submitters language wise...but conceptually, submitters referres to a certain division who claim that the sunna is fake, and we should only follow Quran

So, you do follow the sunna?...I mean you believe in the Ahadeeth?

And how come you pray 7 times a day?...They are only 5!

Salam

Do I miss something here?

Mujahid Mohammed · #9 10-13-2007, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lava

Bible, Tavrat and Qur'an were given by Allah Almighty. they all explained the religion of Allah which is Islam=surrender. it is named as religion of Abraham. therefor this board suits very well. in other words i am willing to send for everyone who has book.

Have you ever read the bible? Seriously as a former Christian who is now muslim a statement like that tells me that at best you have not studied christianity or the history of the bible. At worst you have never really read the bible.