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Old 08-24-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid?

Why don't Christians accept the Book of Mormon to be true? It testifys of Christ our Savior, as the Messiah, the Great Mediator. And it's a solid Book, it has substance.

You don't believe there is any way that Christ would have appeared to his "Sheep of another fold" (mentioned in the bible) in the americas after his ressurection. Or that Both God and Christ would appear to a modern day prophet.

Yet, they believe that God, or even the "Mother Mary" would speak to 6 old women in Bosnia?

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on why you think the way you do.

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Old 08-25-2007, 12:32 AM
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Why would someone who isn't LDS accept the Book of Mormon as scripture? If you admit that it is scripture, than you are admitting that Joseph Smith was a prophet. If you admit that Joseph Smith was a prophet, you admit that the LDS is God's church upon the earth.
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at least people could answer the question

nobody wants to even do that....

most people haven't even read it and they call it "rubbish" and other names i have seen/heard
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I usually stay out of conversations like this one. There are things that don't add up about the Golden Plates that were supposedly found. None of the bible was taken from anything outside of writing on papyrus (and later translated and copied), I mean God did not send down documents (unless you count the Ten Commandments and those were on stone, not gold.)

I am not about to call someone else's writings that they use for worship and call it rubbish, however. That would be incredibly rude.
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I usually stay out of conversations like this one. There are things that don't add up about the Golden Plates that were supposedly found. None of the bible was taken from anything outside of writing on papyrus (and later translated and copied), I mean God did not send down documents (unless you count the Ten Commandments and those were on stone, not gold.)

I am not about to call someone else's writings that they use for worship and call it rubbish, however. That would be incredibly rude.
ah, but the gold plates were not "sent down" they were buried in a hillside 1500 years or so before they were found again.
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ah, but the gold plates were not "sent down" they were buried in a hillside 1500 years or so before they were found again.
Oh, OK, I stand corrected about that.
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I don't have a problem with the Book of Mormon, especially since a LDS kindly sent me my own copy to peruse.

I simply don't feel it's essential to my salvation. I understand why it's an important Holy Book in your faith. Joseph Smith isn't a prophet in my faith.

I do though, believe that he was a good man and although I don't entirely agree with his message, his message...overall...is consistent with my core beliefs...salvation is found in Christ Jesus.

And if the Book of Mormon and Smith's visions brings people to CHRIST JESUS...then Amen!
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Why don't Christians accept the Book of Mormon to be true?
Why don't Mormons accept the Protevangelion of James or the deuterocanonical books or the Qur'an as true? Most people don't tend to believe in the religious writings accepted by religions other than their own; it stretches credulity to the breaking point to believe in the scriptures of one's own religion.

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Yet, they believe that God, or even the "Mother Mary" would speak to 6 old women in Bosnia?
Many Christians don't, in fact, believe that.

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I'm curious to hear your thoughts on why you think the way you do.
Since I'm not a Christian any more, I have a neat excuse for not opening that can of worms.
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at least people could answer the question

nobody wants to even do that....

most people haven't even read it and they call it "rubbish" and other names i have seen/heard
I can take a crack at it based on the Christians I have talked to in real life and than maybe some of the non-Mormons can comment on what I have said. Specific instances of discord I have observed are:

1) Seeing the USA as the new holy land. I don't know, for the record if this perception is correct or not, but non Mormons see the idea of a post-Israel holy land as revolting or blasphemy. Not blasphemy in a way where there needs to be physical retaliation but more along the lines it goes against their interpretation of the KJV and is therefore invalid.

2) Protestants reject the idea, by and large, that any of the Bible (aka book of Mormon and book of Abraham) could have been written in the last few hundred years.

3) The idea of a modern prophet feels diminishing towards the 12 prophets who are revered by protestants.

4) liberal Christians feel the Bible is the inspired word of God vs the literal and any religion that has literal interpretations would have a diminished validity to many of them.

5) Christians who feel that Christianity doesn't need to be restored (irregardless of reason of why it doesn't) will have issues with a religion that promotes restoration of Christianity.

6) The idea of a Mormon Satan, who seems to be viewed as an opposing God in Mormonism is a direct contradiction of the fallen angel idea that other Christians take on Satan.

7) The Mormons feel that the Mormons are "Gods chosen people" whereas many Christians feel that the Jews are "God's chosen people" creating a mutually exclusive paradigm between the two ideas.
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some Christians do believe in the Book of Mormon....
They are called Mormons.

Very much fewer Christians believe in the Koran.

Not all Christians believe in the Bible in the same way as each other.

None of this proves anything useful....if anything at all.

What we believe defines which religion or denomination we adhere to.

I am quite prepared to accept that people truly believe in their Holy Books.
and because of this I respect both them and the Books.
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