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Old 03-04-2008, 09:55 PM
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True, as soon as you back them into a corner and thier "book" cant explain the obvious fallices, they cry "foul"!!!
Likewise, people claim the BoM is an obvious fraud, and I present poetry, names, dates, and other data that were not known in the time of Joseph Smith. I use peer-reviewed sources, and people cry "foul."

Point me to the thread, if you really want to address these.
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Likewise, people claim the BoM is an obvious fraud, and I present poetry, names, dates, and other data that were not known in the time of Joseph Smith. I use peer-reviewed sources, and people cry "foul."

Point me to the thread, if you really want to address these.
Try here - Does anyone really think the book of mormon is compatible with the bible?
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So are you still a Christian, Rolling_Stone? I forget.
I guess you might say I'm Christian in the same way early Christianity was regarded as a kind of Judaism. I have absolutely no problem with the idea of Christ's divinity although I lean to The URANTIA Book's version, but I do have serious problems with the concept of atonement.

I especially appreciate Trinitarianism, as contemplating on it has given me a new appreciation of not only my commitment to the Father, but my relationship with Him.
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My profound apologies for popping in here and risking repetition.
Has any non-LDS Christian ever stated that the actual teachings of the BoM are objectionable? I mean, take Joseph Smith, the vision, the LDS Church and all that, out of the mix-- is the content of the book a problem, and why? (I think that was the original question of the OP . . . did it get an answer?)
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The problem is that there is actually very little doctrine in the Book of Mormon. Many of the particular beliefs of the Mormon faith are not found in the book: Word of Wisdom, Eternal Marriage, Temple Endowments, exaltation, etc. are from the Doctrine & Convenants or Pearl of Great Price (pre-mortal life). The Book of Mormon has wonderful passages on faith (Alma) and on Jesus Christ as the promised Savior, but mostly its a "history" book with some regulations tacked on for good measure (reject infant baptism, elder ordination, sacrament prayers and the like found in Moroni, I think?)

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The problem is that there is actually very little doctrine in the Book of Mormon. Many of the particular beliefs of the Mormon faith are not found in the book: Word of Wisdom, Eternal Marriage, Temple Endowments, exaltation, etc. are from the Doctrine & Convenants. The Book of Mormon has wonderful passages on faith (Alma) and on Jesus Christ as the promised Savior, but mostly its a "history" book with some regulations tacked on for good measure (reject infant baptism, elder ordination, sacrament prayers and the like found in Moroni, I think?)
I think you're right about that. As "another testament of Jesus Christ," it's a great book. As a source of doctrinal information, the D&C is considerably more comprehensive.
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Secondly, haven't one or more of the witnesses that saw the Golden Plates recanted their stories.
Not a single one. Several parted ways with Joseph Smith and, in fact, became his bitter enemies, but none of them ever denied having seen the plates.
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