Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid? (Jesus, Earth) - Page 43

!Fluffy! · #**421** 10-22-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Polaris

What purpose does repentance serve then?

What purpose does the judgement serve then?

If you are trying to say they bring salvation, you would be in error.

Repentance is a response to the holy spirit.

Judgement belongs to God.

!Fluffy! · #**422** 10-22-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by madhatter85

I wasn't name calling,

but seriously that is all i see is a bunch of people too scared to actually take one good look at the Book of Mormon, they make claims regarding it's contents but havent even read the title page.

Really It's great.

I'm sorry you think I am so shallow, apparently you think I have added nothing to the conversation worth reading.

Well i can see the topic has taken a turn for the worse here. I'm just going to bow out gracefully and bid you all God's blessings.

Peace,
!Fluffy!

*edit* i just saw this

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You're making assumptions. many critics have read it cover to cover.

including me, and thank you for pointing that out my friend.

DeepShadow · #**423** 10-22-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by madhatter85

Alot of LDS people on this forum do try to appease everyone, it's because we are a nice people and don't like to offend.

And then others take membership in the church as carte blanc to say whatever they want.

I was raised with the tripartite rule: "Is it true, is it kind, is it necessary?" as a filter for things I say. I try to make sure that everything I say passes all three tests. You only seem to be concerned about the first one. The problem as I see it with looking only for things that are true, is that there are multiple kinds of truth, and if two statements are true, you can choose the kindest one without compromising truth.

Have you ever heard the story about the three men who are cutting stone for a church? When asked what he's doing, the first man says, "I am cutting stone," the second says "I am working for (so many) cents an hour," and the third says, "I am helping to build the house of God." All three of these statements are truthful answers to the question, "What are you doing?" Depending on the situation, any one of them may be a more relevant answer. To select the best answer, we need to look at more than just what is truthful.

madhatter85 · #**424** 10-22-2007, 04:05 PM

Repentance is having a broken heart and a contrite sprit, a change of heart allowing Christ to forgive you.

they do bring salvation.

madhatter85 · #**425** 10-22-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepShadow

And then others take membership in the church as carte blanc to say whatever they want.

I was raised with the tripartite rule: "Is it true, is it kind, is it necessary?" as a filter for things I say. I try to make sure that everything I say passes all three tests. You only seem to be concerned about the first one. The problem as I see it with looking only for things that are true, is that there are multiple kinds of truth, and if two statements are true, you can choose the kindest one without compromising truth.

Have you ever heard the story about the three men who are cutting stone for a church? When asked what he's doing, the first man says, "I am cutting stone," the second says "I am working for (so many) cents an hour," and the third says, "I am helping to build the house of God." All three of these statements are truthful answers to the question, "What are you doing?" Depending on the situation, any one of them may be a more relevant answer. To select the best answer, we need to look at more than just what is truthful.

I agree with you about things beig relevant, but i won't compromise my own values and what i know to be true and correct to spare someone else's feelings.

DeepShadow · #**426** 10-22-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by madhatter85

I agree with you about things beig relevant, but i won't compromise my own values and what i know to be true and correct to spare someone else's feelings.

You don't have to do so. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Search among the many true things that you can say, and choose one of the kinder ones. If it's just as true as the others, what's the problem?

madhatter85 · #**427** 10-22-2007, 04:15 PM

because watering some things down changes it's meaning. some things yes, they can be made to sound more tactful, but for the most part, it changes the whole meaning and makes it sould like they're just flattering people.

SoyLeche · #**428** 10-22-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by madhatter85

because watering some things down changes it's meaning. some things yes, they can be made to sound more tactful, but for the most part, it changes the whole meaning and makes it sould like they're just flattering people.

I'm wondering if you would have the same tact if you were talking to the people on this forum face to face instead of over an anonymous internet forum. I'm thinking that you would probably find some nicer ways of saying what you feel you need to say, but I could be wrong.