Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid? (Jesus, Earth) - Page 41

!Fluffy! · #**401** 10-22-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sojourner

Nothing is sufficient for salvation, save the work of Christ on our behalf.

Amen brother. Tho i do believe sanctification is a joint effort.

SoyLeche · #**402** 10-22-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sojourner

Exactly!
And God chose to put the authority within baptism, in whatever form it takes. That's what I have come to know. You may believe that I'm wrong, but you'r belief don't make it so. You cannot make viable statements about my spiritual disposition.

Ok, believe that. I'm glad you can finally see that my belief doesn't make a difference in yours.

I disagree with you on that point, but who cares? I'm sure we disagree on a lot more than that.

Polaris · #**403** 10-22-2007, 03:33 PM

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There IS no other priesthood or authority for Christians, only Christ as their Bishop.

So then what "keys" were given to Peter and the other Apostles?

sojourner · #**404** 10-22-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Polaris

So then what "keys" were given to Peter and the other Apostles?

Monk-keys?

Scuba Pete · #**405** 10-22-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sojourner

Baptism is

an act of Faith. Without faith it is impossible to please God.

Romans 4:13 It was not through law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. 14 For if those who live by law are heirs, faith has no value and the promise is worthless, 15 because law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression. 16 Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham's offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. 17 As it is written: "I have made you a father of many nations." He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed—the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were. NIV

Polaris · #**406** 10-22-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sojourner

Nothing is sufficient for salvation, save the work of Christ on our behalf.

What purpose does repentance serve then?

What purpose does the judgement serve then?

madhatter85 · #**407** 10-22-2007, 03:40 PM

Hey polaris! I smell cow pattys over in the next pature!

namguy · #**408** 10-22-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by madhatter85

Why don't Christians accept the Book of Mormon to be true? It testifys of Christ our Savior, as the Messiah, the Great Mediator. And it's a solid Book, it has substance.

You don't believe there is any way that Christ would have appeared to his "Sheep of another fold" (mentioned in the bible) in the americas after his ressurection. Or that Both God and Christ would appear to a modern day prophet.

Yet, they believe that God, or even the "Mother Mary" would speak to 6 old women in Bosnia?

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on why you think the way you do.

A "true Christian" believes in the Bible (KJV) it has the LAST WORD. In the Mormon religion the Book of Mormon has the last word. Anything after 'but' is of the devil

!Fluffy! · #**409** 10-22-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Polaris

So then what "keys" were given to Peter and the other Apostles?

Those were the keys to a vehicle - the written word by which all believers since their witness have come to Christ.

They were also the keys to the Kingdom - and ScubaPete will understand this I think - the kingdom of heaven which is "at hand" - here and now. It was the final act after the destruction of the priesthood, and the establishment of the new priesthood of all believers, which was accepted on our behalf by the apostles as the first of many to come after them.

Christ did not tear down the priesthood just to re-establish the same order with a new shiny name. No, we are the new priesthood as testified to in I Peter 2.