Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid? (Jesus, Earth)

[SoyLeche]

Originally Posted by neillien

So, you don't have any dogma?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that.

Do I hold my beliefs infallible? No.

The rest of your post is really a topic for another thread. I'm not going to take this one any further on that tangent.

[neillien]

Originally Posted by SoyLeche

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that. Do I hold my beliefs infallible? . . .

pretty much: a belief that cannot be changed in your mind; such as
JS was a prophet and that the CoJCoLDS is the restored church.
And since I want to ask a question concerning you having no dogma, do you believe that proposition [the one in red] but cannot know for sure that it is true?

. . . another thread . . .

[SoyLeche]

Originally Posted by neillien

pretty much: a belief that cannot be changed in your mind; such as
JS was a prophet and that the CoJCoLDS is the restored church.
And since I want to ask a question concerning you having no dogma, do you believe that proposition [the one in red] but cannot know for sure that it is true?

It can be believed, and that belief can be very certain. You can know it with about as much certainty that you can know anything in life. I'd still say that there is a chance (albeit a small one) that the belief is wrong.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by neillien

Does the Bible condemn polygamy? It states that people who are authorities in the NT church should have one wife only. Yes, there were plenty of OT problems but I've yet to read one of the 613 Hebrew laws against multiple wives.

It is a man made law in the U.S.; not a God-made law.

If we check the context of 1 Tim chapter 3. the first few verses states what "the character" of the deacon/bishop must be.

The bible condemned fornication and adultery. Adultery means having sex with another person other than your wife. The english dictionary did not state "wives." The verse below settles everything.

Mat 19:9

"And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."

[DeepShadow]

If the Book of Mormon advocated polygamy, this discussion might be relevant to the thread. It does not, therefore please confine yourselves to the topic at hand.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by DeepShadow

If the Book of Mormon advocated polygamy, this discussion might be relevant to the thread. It does not, therefore please confine yourselves to the topic at hand.

The book of Mormons condoned to polygamy, and the teachings of Christ in the bible doesn't.

Two contradicting concepts cannot be both true. That is ONE reason why the book of mormons is not considered valid.

Other reasons will include the fact that nobody came after the apostles to write there own book. The biblical proof is written in;

1 Corinthians 4:9

For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

1 Corinthians 4:6
"And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another."

To God be the Glory!

[Sola'lor]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

The book of Mormons condoned to polygamy, and the teachings of Christ in the bible doesn't.

Actually the Book of Mormon condemns polygamy

Jacob 2:23-28
23 But the word of God burdens me because of your grosser crimes. For behold, thus saith the Lord: This people begin to wax in iniquity; they understand not the scriptures, for they seek to excuse themselves in committing whoredoms, because of the things which were written concerning David, and Solomon his son.
24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.

Two contradicting concepts cannot be both true. That is ONE reason why the book of mormons is not considered valid.

There's no contradiction between the Book of Mormon and the Bble.

Other reasons will include the fact that nobody came after the apostles to write there own book. The biblical proof is written in;

1 Corinthians 4:9

For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

1 Corinthians 4:6
"And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another."

To God be the Glory!

That why the church needed to be restored because the Apostle all were killed and didn't pass on their keys of authority to other people. They were killed and the Preisthood was lost. The church was distorted by the doctrines of men. Therefore it was neccessary for the church to be restored

Amos 3:7
7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Sola'lor

Actually the Book of Mormon condemns polygamy

Jacob 2:23-28
23 But the word of God burdens me because of your grosser crimes. For behold, thus saith the Lord: This people begin to wax in iniquity; they understand not the scriptures, for they seek to excuse themselves in committing whoredoms, because of the things which were written concerning David, and Solomon his son.
24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.




There's no contradiction between the Book of Mormon and the Bble.

There is definitely a contradiction. you just exposed that the things written in the book mormons contradicted itself...

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Sola'lor