Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid? (Jesus, Earth)

[neillien]

It doesn't matter if you drink straight Kool Aid or if you drink Kool Aid with cyanide.
If you have a burning in the bosom before you drink, the burning is not going to let you know what the ingredients are in the container.

And so, praying over the BoM and getting a feeling from an unknown source, this burning in the bosom can in no way verify if the LDS religion is based on truth . . . or mixed with cyanide.

Know the contents before you decide to believe and drink. It could just save your (eternal) life.

[Starfish]

Originally Posted by neillien

Judaism wasn't corrupted. The people were ("all have sinned"). The law had not changed. Christ fulfilled the law because we couldn't. He then was sacrificed for us. Now there is no longer a need for an Aaronic priesthood because there are no sacrifices (if you follow Judaeo-Christianity).

As long as baptism is required, we do need the Aaronic priesthood. Without it, there is no authority to baptize.

This was the intention of my original post. LDS have revived a Jewish tradition that has no place in Traditional Christianity.

Traditional Christianity and LDS have opposite beliefs. This is why LDS are not considered to be Christian by Traditional Christianity . And LDS should espouse loudly that those of Traditional Christianity are also not Christians to them.

Don't try to get Traditional Christianity to say that you're one of them. Instead, proudly say that Traditional Christianity is not Christian.

If you break down the term Christianity into sub-titles, then we are not "Traditional Christians". No argument there. We are "Restored Christianity". That's been said many times. But most people don't bother breaking it down into specifics. So in general terms, all those who believe in Christ's divinity, and strive to follow his doctrine to their best understanding--are Christians*.

It's simply a matter of which definition of "Christian" you use. The LDS use the one I just stated*, Traditional Christians use another.

[Starfish]

Originally Posted by neillien

It doesn't matter if you drink straight Kool Aid or if you drink Kool Aid with cyanide.
If you have a burning in the bosom before you drink, the burning is not going to let you know what the ingredients are in the container.

And so, praying over the BoM and getting a feeling from an unknown source, this burning in the bosom can in no way verify if the LDS religion is based on truth . . . or mixed with cyanide.

Know the contents before you decide to believe and drink. It could just save your (eternal) life.

Interesting. I've been LDS all my life, and have never experienced any burning feeling.
Have you never felt the influence of the Holy Ghost? If not, why not? We are promised by the Savior that the Holy Ghost will be with us to give us comfort, strength, and knowledge. Have you not felt it? Again, why not? I have felt it. The Holy Ghost has helped me to know that the gospel of Jesus Christ, as taught in the LDS Church, is true.

So whether one feels the Holy Ghost through a bossom-burning sensation, or by another way, it's a true principle. It's what Christ taught. And your advice to know the contents is exactly right. Read the book. Then pray about it.

[Scott C.]

Originally Posted by neillien

Don't try to get Traditional Christianity to say that you're one of them. Instead, proudly say that Traditional Christianity is not Christian.

If by traditional Christianity, you mean doctrines as taught by Christian churches today, then as an LDS I accept some of what is taught and reject some of what is taught by traditional Chirstianity. I reject those parts that I believe are non-Biblical and accept those parts that are Biblical. A non-LDS who teaches traditional Christianity, by this definition, would say that everything they teach is Biblical. So, we have a difference of opinion on what is Biblical. I could make an argument that the LDS Church is the only Christian church, since it is the only church led by a prophet of Jesus and the only church with the authority of Jesus to perform the ordinances of Christ. But, I choose not to narrowly define Christianity that way. If a person believes they believe the Bible, believes Jesus is Lord, but also believes in what I consider to be non-biblical doctrines, such as the Trinity, no need for Priesthood, no need for living prophets, I still accept that person as Christian. In other words I consider many people to be Christian who believe in doctrines which I consider to be flat out false and not taught by the Bible. If they believe Jesus is Lord and are trying to live a good live, reflective of their faith, and sincerely believe that they believe in the Bible, then I accept them as Christians. Now if a non-LDS Christian defines Christianity the same way as I do, then that Christian would accept the LDS as Christian also. If I were to be as narrow in my definition of Christian, as some Christians are in theirs, then I would conclude that only LDS are Christian, and only some of them.

[nutshell]

Originally Posted by neillien

It doesn't matter if you drink straight Kool Aid or if you drink Kool Aid with cyanide.
If you have a burning in the bosom before you drink, the burning is not going to let you know what the ingredients are in the container.

And so, praying over the BoM and getting a feeling from an unknown source, this burning in the bosom can in no way verify if the LDS religion is based on truth . . . or mixed with cyanide.

Know the contents before you decide to believe and drink. It could just save your (eternal) life.

I too have never had some "burning." Rather, I received confirmation from the Spirit of the Father in the same way that Peter received confirmation that Jesus is the Christ.

[Bishka]

Originally Posted by neillien

It doesn't matter if you drink straight Kool Aid or if you drink Kool Aid with cyanide.
If you have a burning in the bosom before you drink, the burning is not going to let you know what the ingredients are in the container.

And so, praying over the BoM and getting a feeling from an unknown source, this burning in the bosom can in no way verify if the LDS religion is based on truth . . . or mixed with cyanide.

Know the contents before you decide to believe and drink. It could just save your (eternal) life.

Colorful.......

That's all you really have going for you though.

[DeepShadow]

Originally Posted by neillien

It doesn't matter if you drink straight Kool Aid or if you drink Kool Aid with cyanide.
If you have a burning in the bosom before you drink, the burning is not going to let you know what the ingredients are in the container.

And so, praying over the BoM and getting a feeling from an unknown source, this burning in the bosom can in no way verify if the LDS religion is based on truth . . . or mixed with cyanide.

Know the contents before you decide to believe and drink. It could just save your (eternal) life.

Don't base your eternal salvation on heartburn. Got it.

[neillien]

Originally Posted by Bishka

Colorful.......

That's all you really have going for you though.

Most people say I'm too black & white

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by neillien

Most people say I'm too black & white

I'm just curious, neillien... Since you've been here on RF, you have contributed a grand total of five posts -- all of them critical of Mormonism and all in this one thread. One might guess you have something of an agenda here. Of all the topics on RF, are there no others that interest you, or is your sole purpose for being here to insult the LDS posters?