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Old 03-23-2008, 09:26 AM
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Joseph Smith had the equivalent of a third-grade education. That's why characters was probably misspelled.
But was Joseph doing the writing? Wasn't he just dictating as opposed to letter by letter spelling?
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:35 AM
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But was Joseph doing the writing? Wasn't he just dictating as opposed to letter by letter spelling?
Yes - that's true.

Personally, I would not attribute misspellings to Smith's 3rd-grade education.

What I'd like to know is this: What was the average education of those in the community? of those writing stories?
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:56 AM
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We LDS will continue to look at your beliefs with respectful bewilderment, just as you do ours.
Perhaps you do.

In my mind, there is no bewilderment, because I've taken the time to research and find out what others believe. They have truth in their faiths and they are trying just as hard as we are, so what I have is respect.
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Old 03-23-2008, 12:16 PM
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...so, out of all of em, how many resemble egyptian short-hand? by this chart its just 8 characters. and out of those four look like common numbers: 4,5,9, and 2. if this was an actual, physical plate with characters engraved on it, why not just pull a rubbing?

This is my difficulty with it, I don't believe there were any physical plates. I have no problem personally believeing in angels or J.Smith gazing into a "seeing stone" to gain his information----ancient seers did this all the time. Its this dependence on physical plates that causes a ruckus. Mystical beings dont require physical proof for their existence, typically its their message thats more important.

I agree with you to a point here. But the bible, not saying it is more of an authority or if you consider it more of an authority, mentions in plenty of chapter and verses of books we don't have in our presence today.
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:36 PM
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But was Joseph doing the writing? Wasn't he just dictating as opposed to letter by letter spelling?
Maybe he didn't have spellcheck ??
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:46 PM
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But was Joseph doing the writing? Wasn't he just dictating as opposed to letter by letter spelling?
Pertaining to the misspellings. Have you ever read letters written by just about anyone from back then? Misspellings were common! Many people didn't own a dictionary and simply sounded words out as best they could. And they certainly didn't have spell-check.
(Hmmm--it's intimidating to write about spelling errors--for fear I make a few of my own!)

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The difference between what are generally considered to be either scriptural or pseudo-scriptural writings and the BoM, is the process of redaction, whereby spelling mistakes have been mostly corrected. Why would this not also be the case with the BoM?
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