Questions for Catholic & Orthodox Christians (Jesus, crucifixion, tradition, beliefs)

[MidnightBlue]

Originally Posted by Hope

Sure! Why not? It's perfectly reasonable, considering you used the word "undeniably." That's a strong word. If something can't be denied I want to know why it can't be denied. What are the proofs?

Fair enough, but more than I want to get into right now. I'm at work; the only reason I've been able to spend so much time on RF is that I've already given my notice and I'm letting my replacement do all the heavy lifting. The article by Fr. John Whiteford is a good start for you in the meantime; I linked my post to it.

Originally Posted by Hope

Thanks for the references. Are they easy to find?

There are links in my post; I can't get them to show up in blue anymore, and I sometimes forget to underline them.

[Hope]

Originally Posted by MidnightBlue

There are links in my post; I can't get them to show up in blue anymore, and I sometimes forget to underline them.

Ok. They work now. Thanks.

[Scott1]

Originally Posted by Hope

My first question is: on what evidence do Catholics and the Orthodox make this claim? I hear a lot about church tradition, and the church fathers. I'd love to have more insight into these, and how they back up the claims to authentic Christianity that we Protestants have somehow strayed from.

Read for yourself....

Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers

Early Church Fathers - Additional Works in English Translation unavailable elsewhere online

Early Church Fathers

Early Church Fathers (more of a RC apologetic site)

Guide to Early Church Documents

..... when I looked into the history of Christianity I did not see a Protestant group, I saw a community of Christians centered on the Eucharist and the authority of a Bishop who drew his authority from the Apostles.... I saw a worship service described in the Didache and by Justin Martyr that did not resemble anything like what I saw in my Protestant church... I saw a CATHOLIC MASS.

Decide for yourself....

Peace be with you,
S