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View Poll Results: Is Jesus God the Father?
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Jesus wasn't crazy... he said: Joh 10:30 "I and my Father are one"

He said one not two. The person of God is Omnipresent, able to be everyone and one time...Jesus and the Father are one God.
So, why did you vote for the Jesus <> the Father option?

My wife and I are one too. I seem to recall someone using that example earlier (and it wasn't a Mormon).
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Jesus wasn't crazy... he said: Joh 10:30 "I and my Father are one"

He said one not two. The person of God is Omnipresent, able to be everyone and one time...Jesus and the Father are one God.
By the way - check out John 17:11, 20-23.
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By the way - check out John 17:11, 20-23.
I dont know whether or not you are agreeing with me or disagreeing or trying to use these verses to push the idea exaltation to god-hood.

So, if you are agreeing with me yes.

If no, These verses meaning "to become one" is references to the Body of Christ, not exaltation to god-hood.

Ro 12:5 -So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

The Body of Christ is the TRUE Church. Not one specific body or group,as it is just a lie to say so.
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I dont know whether or not you are agreeing with me or disagreeing or trying to use these verses to push the idea exaltation to god-hood.

So, if you are agreeing with me yes.

If no, These verses meaning "to become one" is references to the Body of Christ, not exaltation to god-hood.

Ro 12:5 -So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

The Body of Christ is the TRUE Church. Not one specific body or group,as it is just a lie to say so.
Actually, I think I am agreeing with you, but I don't think you think I am. Like I've said, our beliefs on this subject really don't seem to be all that different - mostly coming to semantics.

Christ wanted them to be "one" LIKE "he and his Father are one". Yet, there were still 12 of them, and he was talking about countless others. So, you can have multiple "beings" who are "one". Remember - the marriage example, which someone thought was an argument in favor of the trinity, but is really a better argument for a "Godhead".

I'm not using this as an argument for exaltation to god-hood, although that argument is there too.
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