LDS and Evangelical men – Discussing spiritual truths for the sake of our families (Jesus Christ, reject)

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LDS and Evangelical men – Discussing spiritual truths for the sake of our families

Dear LDS men who have been granted federal headship in a household of faith. The “LDS Articles of Faith” Thread has been closed. I embrace the promise of Romans 8:28; therefore I am starting a new Thread that has grown out of the “LDS Articles of Faith” Thread. As you mediate on the Scriptures below, you will see that God has ordained the family structure by His design for our good and His purposes. In the 21st century, men in general have abdicated their spiritual leadership role. Women tend to lead families in religious responsibilites. This is not God’s intended design. Therefore, our families suffer when we disobey God. Study this truth in the light of Genesis 3.

I am starting a discussion and debate between LDS men and Evangelical men who have been granted stewardship over the spiritual well beings of our wives and children. Let’s debate official LDS doctrine and Evangelical doctrine in regards to the implications of spiritual truths and how it affects our families. As men, we provide for our families temporal needs through work. However, do we provide for our families spiritual needs, or do we abdicate this God ordained role to our wives? If any LDS men are interested, please start our discussion for the spiritual well beings of our families.

Sincerely written - BT

1 Peter 3:7

Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.

Ephesians 5

Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

1 Timothy 2

A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

1 Corinthians 11

Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God…For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.

[nutshell]

I won't waste my time with sexists.

[Bishka]

Originally Posted by bible truth

Women tend to lead families in religious responsibilites. This is not God’s intended design. Therefore, our families suffer when we disobey God.

Sexism is not allowed. Jesus Christ and the Father never intended that men would rule over women. It was Paul who wrote those verses you are referring to. II know that my husband will not respond to this because in our family we are equal. We may have differring responsibilities, but we are equal.

[porkchop]

I don't think BT is being sexist here, these are his beliefs based upon the Bible.
Hasn't anyone heard of this belief/way of living before?
It might be worth the debate, unfortunately, i wont be participating, got dishes to do!! He!He!

[bible truth]

Originally Posted by beckysoup61

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Sexism is not allowed. Jesus Christ and the Father never intended that men would rule over women. It was Paul who wrote those verses you are referring to. II know that my husband will not respond to this because in our family we are equal. We may have differring responsibilities, but we are equal.

Do you believe the verses I quoted in Thread 1 to be the Word of God? Are LDS members responsible to obey those particular verses, or have they been incorrectly translated? Are you saying the LDS church rejects the teaching of the Apostle Paul? Dear LDS women, please let your husbands read the Thread and decide for themselves. - BT

President Ezra Taft Benson gave husbands the following counsel:

"Once you determine that a high priority in your life is to see that your wife and your children are happy, then you will do all in your power to do so. I am not just speaking of satisfying material desires, but of filling other vital needs such as appreciation, compliments, comforting, encouraging, listening, and giving love and affection." (In Conference Report, Apr. 1981, p. 47; or Ensign, May 1981, p. 34.)

[nutshell]

Originally Posted by porkchop

I don't think BT is being sexist here, these are his beliefs based upon the Bible.
Hasn't anyone heard of this belief/way of living before?
It might be worth the debate, unfortunately, i wont be participating, got dishes to do!! He!He!

I'm well aware of what's in the Bible and just because it beliefs come from the Bible doesn't mean it's not sexist. It misunderstands the doctrine. Finally, debates with it are useless.

[porkchop]

Originally Posted by nutshell

I'm well aware of what's in the Bible and just because it beliefs come from the Bible doesn't mean it's not sexist. It misunderstands the doctrine. Finally, debates with it are useless.

Isn't that just your interpretation?

[nutshell]

Originally Posted by porkchop

Isn't that just your interpretation?

Everyone is free to their own interpretation. Its interpretation is sexist. That's my interpretation of its interpretation.

PS: winks are useless.

[bible truth]

Originally Posted by nutshell

Everyone is free to their own interpretation. Its interpretation is sexist. That's my interpretation of its interpretation.

PS: winks are useless.

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The Gospel Blesses Families and Individuals

What's missing in my life?
God has established families to bring happiness to His children, allow them to learn correct principles in a loving atmosphere, and prepare them to return to Him after they die. Because families are ordained of God, they are the most important social unit in time and in eternity.
Marriage (Genesis 2:18) and family ( Genesis 1:28) are central focal points in God’s plan for the eternal destiny of His children. Your Heavenly Father wants you to do all you can during your time on Earth to prepare yourself to live in an eternal family.
Successful marriages and families are established and maintained on sound principles, like those that Jesus Christ taught. These principles include faith in Jesus Christ, prayer,

Repentance

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repentance?, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, work, and wholesome recreational activities. A home established on gospel principles is a place of refuge and safety, where the

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