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Old 04-10-2007, 05:14 PM
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You are inaccurate Zakaria...
Torah indeed refers to the five books of Moses..
Check the Wiki..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah
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Torah is a Hebrew word meaning "teaching," "instruction," or "law". It refers primarily to the Five Books of Moses
It refers mainly to the five books of Moses, but many people today associate the word Torah with the entire Old Testament.

Anyway, so the correction is that Moses brought the Torah (Mose book 1-5), and the prophets after him brought the rest books. All these books (including the Torah) are the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible/Old Testament).

Which means, that the prophets between Moses and Jesus still brought books.

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Old 04-10-2007, 06:33 PM
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In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

.: God's messenger of the Covenant :.
.: Rashad Khalifa :.

The scriptures have prophecised the arrival of a messenger, who will come after all prophets (prophet=messenger who deliver scripture) have delivered all scriptures. He is to unify their messages into one global message, and purify the religion of Abraham, Submission, from all forms of idol worship, and dedicate the worship to God alone. In other words, restore the meaning to religion, that worshiping God alone is the only way for redemption.

Bible, Malachi 3

1 "See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come," says the LORD Almighty.

2 But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner's fire or a launderer's soap. 3 He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; he will purify the Levites and refine them like gold and silver. Then the LORD will have men who will bring offerings in righteousness



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[3:81] GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."


All prophets pledged to support God's messenger of the Covenant.

[33:7] Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.

This covenant with the prophets was fulfilled December 21st 1971.
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Appendix 2, from the authorized translation of Quran, the final testament, we read Rashad Khalifa's own words:

Although the prophets are dead, as far as this world is concerned, we know that their souls, the real persons, are now in the Garden of Eden where Adam & Eve lived. Several verses enjoin us from thinking that the believers who shed their bodies and departed this world are dead (2:154, 3:169, 4:69). Although they cannot come back to our world (23:100), they are "alive" in Paradise. Please see Appendix 17.

During my Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca, and before sunrise on Tuesday, Zul-Hijjah 3, 1391, December 21, 1971, I, Rashad Khalifa, the soul, the real person, not the body, was taken to some place in the universe where I was introduced to all the prophets as God's Messenger of the Covenant. I was not informed of the details and true significance of this event until Ramadan 1408.

What I witnessed, in sharp consciousness, was that I was sitting still, while the prophets, one by one, came towards me, looked at my face, then nodded their heads. God showed them to me as they had looked in this world, attired in their respective mode of dress. There was an atmosphere of great awe, joy, and respect.


Except for Abraham, none of the prophets was identified to me. I knew that all the prophets were there, including Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, Aaron, David, Noah, and the rest. I believe that the reason for revealing Abraham's identity was that I asked about him. I was taken aback by the strong resemblance he had with my own family - myself, my father, my uncles. It was the only time that I wondered, "Who is this prophet who looks like my relatives?" The answer came: "Abraham." No language was spoken. All communication was done mentally.

The mission of God's Messenger of the Covenant is to confirm existing scriptures, purify them, and consolidate them into one divine message. The Quran states that such a messenger is charged with restoring God's message to its pristine purity, to lead the righteous believers - Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus, and others - out of darkness into the light (5:19 & 65:11). He is to proclaim that Islam (total submission to God) is the only religion acceptable by God (3:19).


Rashad Khalifa translated Quran into English, and wrote an introduction and 38 appendecis about his message in the same book. Please view his book (online) for more information.

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Anyway, so the correction is that Moses brought the Torah (Mose book 1-5), and the prophets after him brought the rest books. All these books (including the Torah) are the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible/Old Testament).

Which means, that the prophets between Moses and Jesus still brought books.
Actually, God tells us it's only the Torah..

To be continued..
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Actually, God tells us it's only the Torah..
The point now is not about the name of the Old Testament, Torah or Tanakh. Our point is that Moses delivered ONLY the five first books in it. We are talking about the prophets between Moses and Jesus, did they deliver books? The answer is yes.

The names of the books in the Old Testament gives us this answer, e.g. book of Isaiah, book of Jonah, book of Zechariah etc...

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Obviously your getting your information from the bible which we don't. We get our information from Allah(subhana wa talla) or from the words of the prophet(saw), anything else we disregard!
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