Christians only: What was God's purpose in creating you? (Jesus Christ, Earth)

[bible truth]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Perhaps that's best. When I read your post I couldn't help but think of something Mother Teresa once said: "For you see, in the end, it is between you and God. It never was between you and them anyway." In other words, I'm sure that my Savior, Jesus Christ, knows that I am His. How wonderful it is for me to know that His opinion is really all that matters.

The Christ I believe in is the Only Begotten Son of God, born to a Virgin in Bethlehem. He is the Christ who gave His life to redeem both of us of our sins and to reconcile us to God. He is the Christ who rose from the dead three days after His crucifixion and who reigns in Heaven today. I'm sorry if you believe in a different Christ than that. I didn't know until now that there was more than one.

What an odd observation. We have certainly never wished to appear "more mainstream." If this is something you've noticed, I'd say it's probably just a coincidence. Trust me, losing our identify to fit in to someone else's understanding of the truth is not something we have any intention of doing.

The Trinity is not a Biblical doctrine, nor is the doctrine of Sola Fide, the doctrine of Predestination, or the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. If you are, however, interested in debating any of these topics with me one-on-one, just say the word.


I do believe, by the way, that Jesus Christ is my Redeemer and that He alone has the power to save me. That is a doctrine clearly taught in both the Bible and the Book of Mormon. It is a doctrine I would give my life to defend.

Although I'm not quite sure what it is you're accusing me of, my gut feeling is that this was not a compliment.

Yes we do.

Yes there is, and He most definitely has.

I beg to differ. There are many clearly many levels of understanding, as evidenced by your comments.

Please do, and I shall do the same for you.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but I assure you I am not only quite sober, but quite confident that when I stand before by Savior to be judged, He will welcome me with open arms. The anti-Christ has no part in my life.

You're very welcome. I must say that it has been awhile since I have been told in such a pleasant way that I am going to Hell.

Rest assured that I will be contributing to most of the same Christian threads as you do. If you are unable to "honestly participate" in any discussion on topics of interest to all Christians just because Mormons are also participating, I'm afraid you're going to find yourself in a bit of a dilemma since there are quite a numbers of Latter-day Saints on this forum.

By the way, I like your signature. Ghandi was right on the money. I can certainly understand why he would say that Christians are so unlike Christ. And it's strange, too, that he had such good insight, being a non-Christian and therefore on the road to Hell himself.

Hi Katzpur,

Below is how the Apostle Paul received the gospel, according to the Holy Bible. Paul teaches that those who deviate from Paul's proclamation of the gospel is eternally condemned. We can discuss the Biblical gospel in another Thread. The LDS understanding of the gospel cannot be supported by Scripture. The LDS perversion of the gospel is in complete oppostion of Paul's gospel that he received from the Savior Himself! Therefore, extra-biblical revelation is needed to develop an entirely new gospel according to the Angel Moroni and Joseph Smith. BTW…the other sheep according to the Savior are the gentiles (not the LDS church). Since I am new to this forum, would you please start a new Thread called “Are Mormons Christians?”. I was able to participate on the similar Thread with the same questions about Roman Catholics. Both of these faiths have amazing similarities that are essentials to defining the true gospel. The LDS Church and Roman Catholic Church rely on extra-biblical revelation, and institutional authority (Magestrium, apostolic succession, modern day prophets, etc). Both the LDS Church and Roman Catholic Church reject the heart of the biblical gospel of justification by faith alone. Why is it difficult to admit that we worship and know different Saviors? We both can be wrong about knowing the living and true Christ. However, we both cannot be right. The Savior taught that if you do not believe who He claimed to be, you will die in your sins. I proclaim that Jesus Christ is God incarnate, the second person in the Godhead. God reveals Himself as the Triune almighty God. Jesus is not the Spirit brother of Lucifer as proclaimed by the LDS church. I will be looking for your Thread if you decide to create it. - BT

Galatians 1
Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead— and all the brothers with me,

To the churches in Galatia:
Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, 5to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

No Other Gospel
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Paul Called by God
I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel I preached is not something that man made up. I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ.

For you have heard of my previous way of life in Judaism, how intensely I persecuted the church of God and tried to destroy it. I was advancing in Judaism beyond many Jews of my own age and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers. But when God, who set me apart from birth and called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not consult any man, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went immediately into Arabia and later returned to Damascus.

Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Peter and stayed with him fifteen days. I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord's brother. I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no lie. Later I went to Syria and Cilicia. I was personally unknown to the churches of Judea that are in Christ. They only heard the report: "The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy." And they praised God because of me.

[Katzpur]

BT, I would be happy to start such a thread. I am assuming that you want this to be a debate thread. What I would like to know is whether you would prefer that we engage in a one-on-one debate (no one else would be allowed to participate), or a debate in which only "Christians" could participate (that would include anyone who considers himself to be a Christian), or a debate in which anyone on the forum could participate. Please let me know, and I will start the thread.

[bible truth]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

BT, I would be happy to start such a thread. I am assuming that you want this to be a debate thread. What I would like to know is whether you would prefer that we engage in a one-on-one debate (no one else would be allowed to participate), or a debate in which only "Christians" could participate (that would include anyone who considers himself to be a Christian), or a debate in which anyone on the forum could participate. Please let me know, and I will start the thread.

Hi my Mormon friend,

I believe God saves sinners. Therefore, let's open it to all who have been granted spiritual ears to hear.

Your friend,
BT

[Bishka]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

By the way, I like your signature. Ghandi was right on the money. I can certainly understand why he would say that Christians are so unlike Christ. And it's strange, too, that he had such good insight, being a non-Christian and therefore on the road to Hell himself.

Please tell me this is a joke. So Ghandi wasn't going to hell, but Mormons are?

[Carol wis]

Why did God make us? I believe God made us to know Him, to Love Him, and to serve Him in this world, and to be happy with Him for ever in Heaven. Faith is a man's response to God, who reveals Himself and gives Himself to man, and at the same time bringing man a superabundant light as he searches for the ultimate meaning of his life. Blessings Carol wis

[Carol wis]

Hi everybody, I believe God made us to know Him, to Love Him and to serve Him in this world and to be happy with Him forever in Heaven. Faith is a man's response to God, who reveals Himself and gives Himself to man, and at the same time bringing man a superabundant light as a man searches for the ultimate meaning of his life. Blessing Carol wis

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Why do you believe God created you?

The greatest gift to woman.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Carol wis

Hi everybody, I believe God made us to know Him, to Love Him and to serve Him in this world and to be happy with Him forever in Heaven. Faith is a man's response to God, who reveals Himself and gives Himself to man, and at the same time bringing man a superabundant light as a man searches for the ultimate meaning of his life. Blessing Carol wis

Thanks for your comments, Carol. Could I ask you what you believe "being happen with Him forever in Heaven" means to you as a Catholic?

[Carol wis]

Hi Katzpur, I have to start first by saying I love your little kittycat, what a cutie pie. And you, your so lucky to live in beautiful Salt Lake city, those mountains, wow. "being happy forever in Heaven" My Church tells me that God promises this to us. Heaven is the state of everlasting life in which we see God face to face, are made like unto Him in glory, and enjoy eternal happiness. In our Creed, we say at one part "seen and unseen". I bet you could agree on the unseen part, I don't know of anyone who as ever been to Heaven and came back. God as never failed me yet, I like you, know He never goes back on His Word. I use my imagination at times, like in my loving God, loving other people, in everything God made on this earth, everything good from God and in Heaven God magnifying all of this to such a level... unknown to us here, to even comprehend with our little human brains. Peace Carl wis

[lowrider]

Bingo! We have a winner.

"I believe the scriptural position is that He created us for His own good pleasure."
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