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Old 10-03-2006, 10:29 AM
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HI,

thought i should start my first debate thread with one of the most controversial topics going on in Christiandom today---Is the Bible 100% accurate.

Positions often include: Inerrancy Infallible: The Bible is perfect in original texts and perfect for doctrine---it is entirely breathed by the mouth of God--can not lead one astray

Inerrancy Fallible: 100% perfect if you translate correctly, poor translation might lead one astray. insert also interpretation

Errancy Infallible: text may be incorrect but is perfect enough to lead us to righteousness and good doctrine

Errancy Fallible: text contains errors-can lead to bad doctrine contrary to science and God

im sure there are others, but these are the ones i have run into

i happen to have recently started believing Errant Falliblity with the Bible , i believe it is good for Doctrine, but Christ is the Perfect Word

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HI,

thought i should start my first debate thread with one of the most controversial topics going on in Christiandom today---Is the Bible 100% accurate.

Positions often include: Inerrancy Infallible: The Bible is perfect in original texts and perfect for doctrine---it is entirely breathed by the mouth of God--can not lead one astray

Inerrancy Fallible: 100% perfect if you translate correctly, poor translation might lead one astray. insert also interpretation

Errancy Infallible: text may be incorrect but is perfect enough to lead us to righteousness and good doctrine

Errancy Fallible: text contains errors-can lead to bad doctrine contrary to science and God

im sure there are others, but these are the ones i have run into

i happen to have recently started believing Errant Falliblity with the Bible , i believe it is good for Doctrine, but Christ is the Perfect Word

Discuss
Is "Errant Falliblity" the same thing as "Errancy Fallible"?
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Personally, I don't see how any discussion or position on inerrantcy is going to be boring and unintelligent. The Bible is a human document, written by humans for humans - copied, edited, and transmitted by humans, and finally canonized in several different versions.

Protestants generally are over-zealous in waving their canon around and making any number of claims about it. It's really tiresome and stupid IMHO.

EDIT: It's fundie evangelical wackos that are forcing people to come up with a position on this petty issue. When I am at Southwestern Seminary it's hard to have a conversation with anyone and not talk about inerrancy. However, when I am on more fertile theological ground, where everyone realizes the hopeless impossibility of any position on inerrancy - it is never mentioned. In fact, I don't think that I've heard anyone talk about inerrancy outside of Southwestern...
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Personally, I don't see how any discussion or position on inerrantcy is going to be boring and unintelligent. The Bible is a human document, written by humans for humans - copied, edited, and transmitted by humans, and finally canonized in several different versions.

Protestants generally are over-zealous in waving their canon around and making any number of claims about it. It's really tiresome and stupid IMHO.

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