Christians - Bible Interpretation (Jesus, gospel, creation, churches, experience)

[Baerly]

Drummrguy, If you want go to gospelpreceptor.com and look up a lesson by
Fred E. Dennis entitled "Can We All Understand The Bible Alike?
gospelpreceptor.com/DennisF2htm.

Also Look at a lesson called "Standard of Authority" / By Chuck Northrop
URL: http://www.gospelpreceptor.com/Northrp8.htm - 13k - 01 May 2004

The Gospel Preceptor is a great place to get good bible lessons. in love Baerly

[Bishka]

Originally Posted by Baerly

Drummrguy, If you want go to gospelpreceptor.com and look up a lesson by
Fred E. Dennis entitled "Can We All Understand The Bible Alike?
gospelpreceptor.com/DennisF2htm.

The Gospel Preceptor is a great place to get good bible lessons. in love Baerly

Baerly -

That website clearly has an agenda - right there on the homepage.

Something against Mormonism.

[Baerly]

WE have not taped the mouth of our Lord. It is not a matter of what man has done to God,but rather God has decided to put his message within the New Testament. He said it is sufficient and has ALL things that pertain to life and godliness (2Peter 1:3). I trust those very words of our Lord. in love Baerly

[Baerly]

Originally Posted by beckysoup61

Baerly -

That website clearly has an agenda - right there on the homepage.

Something against Mormonism.

There only agenda is to preach the word of God I assure you. I urge you to look into those lessons,check them out. in love baerly

[Terrywoodenpic]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

My comment is not directed towards you, Terry, but only to the dead God that can only speak in Scripture.

I say, "Would that God were alive today"

Answer: "But God speaks in his word."

My response: "Then He is mute, and if God cannot speak, He may as well be mute."

It's not a matter of not recognizing God but taping his mouth shut with his own words.

I tend to agree that Books including the Bible only contain a record of the past of both history and philosophy; books do not speak they can not answer new questions.

It takes the interpretation and inspiration from a living God to bring the message to life.
This interpretation of the message is not fixed in time, but is reinterpreted in each generation.
God continues to work with in us, It is up to us to recognize and proclaim the truths.

[Terrywoodenpic]

Originally Posted by Baerly

There only agenda is to preach the word of God I assure you. I urge you to look into those lessons,check them out. in love baerly

God has many messages.
Through out the ages he has spoken to all peoples.
he has done this in the way each age and people can understand.

Do not shut out Gods message to us today by limiting God's power to speak to us.
The latterday Saints have and still receive their Guidance though their Prophet.

the numerous other Christian denominations also commune with God. Some shut their ears and say " God speaks no more, we have the final Message in our version of the Bible"

That is to deny God's living word to us today.
God is not shut away in the past, God speaks to us still.
Would you deny his ability to communicate, by limiting his message to those words man recorded in their Bibles.

[Bishka]

Originally Posted by Baerly

There only agenda is to preach the word of God I assure you. I urge you to look into those lessons,check them out. in love baerly

Not when it preaches hate and intolerance of another Christian faith it isn't.

Baerly,

You can't seriously tak ethe websites word on anything can you?

[PureX]

Originally Posted by drummrguy14

Here's another issue I've been dealing with lately...

In my discussions with my girlfriend, I have discovered just how literally she takes the Bible. She takes it to be 100% fact, not metaphorical, not interpretable...but that it is God's infallible word.

I on the other hand, believe most of it to be metaphorical...I find that more people can be touched by God's word that way, and in doing so draw nearer to Him, so why wouldn't he want that?

I'm interested in hearing some other opinions about this, as well as maybe some advice on how to talk about the Bible with someone who takes it so literally.

thanks!

All written text must be interpreted. Every word written in english (and other languages, too) has several definitions, and as we read we must decide what definition is intended by the context in which each word has been placed with the other words, which themselves have multiple definitions. There is so much variation involved in the act of communicating through written language that it's inevitable that different people will understand the same bit of text somewhat differently. However, your girlfriend may not be willing to accept such rationality.

My suggestion would be for you two to discuss the fact that you have different understandings and interpretations of the words in the text (not argue over who's interpretation is "God's will") and develop a position of mutual respect toward each other's views and relationship with God.

[Baerly]

[quote=Terrywoodenpic]God has many messages.
Through out the ages he has spoken to all peoples.
he has done this in the way each age and people can understand.

Yes,and the bible says when you read you will understand (Eph.3:3,42Tim.3:14-17).

Do not shut out Gods message to us today by limiting God's power to speak to us.
The latterday Saints have and still receive their Guidance though their Prophet.

It is not I that is limiting the word of God. I just read and understood what (Jude 3) and (2Peter 1:3) says. The message was ONCE DELIVERED and it had all things pertaining to life and godliness when it was delivered in the first century. It is called the PERFECT (or complete) word of God (James 1:25) (GAl.6:2). If the bible taught any other thing I would believe it. The bible said those miracles and divine knowledge was to cease in the first century or soon after (1Cor.13:8-10). It was Only by the 12 apostles hands that the gifts of the Holy Spirit could be passed along to other people (Acts 6:6 ; 8:18). Once the bible was wrote there was no need for the gifts any more. I would be more than glad to study this topic with you anytime.The gifts confirmed the word and the speaker (Mark16:20) (Heb.2:3,4).

the numerous other Christian denominations also commune with God. Some shut their ears and say " God speaks no more, we have the final Message in our version of the Bible"

I do not belong to any denomination. I belong to the Lords church. He said he would build only one in (Mt.16:18).Jesus is the head (Col.1:18) (Eph.1:2,23).The body is made up of christians.

Isn't it possible that those people think they are communing with God but in fact they have been deceived (2Cor.11:13-15)?

That is to deny God's living word to us today.
God is not shut away in the past, God speaks to us still.
Would you deny his ability to communicate, by limiting his message to those words man recorded in their Bibles.

I do not wish to deny you of anything. I cannot but believe God when he says he gave us all things pertaining to life and godliness within the bible. He said it was once delivered. (Jude3) (2Peter 1:3) . When you have ALL of something you do not wait for more,there is no more to be had if God give us ALL of it. ANd that is what he said in the bible.

Let me say this,If what you believe and taught harmonized with the bible I would believe it and teach it to others (2Tim2:2).Have you ever wondered why people tell you not to believe the most popular book in the world. A book which most religious people believe to be truth (Gal. 1:6-9John 17:17). The bible says if even an ANGEL says anything other than what is wrote in the bible it is a perverted gospel and the person saying it is to be cut off from GOD. Please see how serious this is to me. I do not wish to upset no one. I just wish to teach you the truth I have found. Please believe me these are not my words,but the very words of Jesus. There have been times I found I taught things contrary to the bible,it was when I learned what the bible taught that I repented and taught truth found within the bible. I truly believe it and try my best to follow it. It cannot be proven to be wrong. Truth is truth no matter which way you look at it.---- in love Baerly

[Baerly]

Beckysoup61 writes:
Not when it preaches hate and intolerance of another Christian faith it isn't.

Baerly,

You can't seriously tak ethe websites word on anything can you?
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Becky I have studied long and hard to try and understand the word of God. That site harmonizes with the bible as best I can tell. I am saddened at the thought that truth seems to be narrow minded, but I did not write the book (BIBLE),I am only trying to study it. I am sure all the lessons on thepreachersfiles.com and the gospel preceptor have been worked up out of love for the souls,for your souls even. If the message seems to be narrow minded it is that way only because it is what the bible teaches. I beg of you to please let us try and show you where and how we get those lessons from the bible.The bible does talk about a narrow way and only a few will get through that way (Matt.7:13,14). I do not think I am low because I care enough about your souls and others to spend some of my time trying to teach you. Especially when I get called all kinds of ugly names.It matters not to me what people say or what names they call me. I have taught a few people about the truth of the bible and it is a joy teaching someone something that I KNOW cannot be proven wrong.-------in love Baerly