Unconditional Love VS conditional relationships (reincarnation, hell, pray, sin)

[Ori]

Originally Posted by njcl

some men/rapists are just spawn of satan consumed with lust for female flesh,yes they should be forgiven but only after god has punished them most severly and rooted out satans spirit from them then they can live decent lives without being a danger to women,if you think im being harsh then consider what christ said about christians/women "whoever shall harm one of these little ones who believe in me then better for that man to tie a millstone around his neck and throw himself into the sea" so you see i was being merciful to them

Not only men rape you know.

[Viva]

Hello : )

I can instantly help you with your confusion. There is absolutely no such thing as "Conditional Love." This is a cultural cliche that has been repeated so many times for so many years, people start swalllowing it like air.

This is not a Christian concept at all

Hope that helps : )

Viva

[Victor]

Originally Posted by Viva

Hello : )

I can instantly help you with your confusion. There is absolutely no such thing as "Conditional Love." This is a cultural cliche that has been repeated so many times for so many years, people start swalllowing it like air.

This is not a Christian concept at all

Hope that helps : )

Viva

Agreed.

~Victor

[true blood]

Originally Posted by Viva

Hello : )

I can instantly help you with your confusion. There is absolutely no such thing as "Conditional Love." This is a cultural cliche that has been repeated so many times for so many years, people start swalllowing it like air.

This is not a Christian concept at all

Hope that helps : )

Viva

If "love thy neighbor as thyself", or "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" isn't conditional, I do not know what is. May not be a chrisitan concept, it's more old testament love, the concept of Christians is the agape love. However, "conditional love" is a reality for those who choose to be under the law.

[Scuba Pete]

[color]Philippians 1:1If you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, 2then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and purpose. 3Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. 4Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others. [/color]NIV

This is how Jesus loved us! The best way to love is to crucify yourself daily and to put others FIRST. It's a decision, not an emotion.

[Victor]

Originally Posted by NetDoc

[color]Philippians 1:1If you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, 2then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and purpose. 3Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. 4Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others. [/color]NIV

This is how Jesus loved us! The best way to love is to crucify yourself daily and to put others FIRST. It's a decision, not an emotion.

Well said ND, but this is exactly why RELATIONSHIPS cannot be unconditional whether it be in the OT or in the NT. The very fact that a response is required means it's conditional. Does God not expect a response from you?

~Victor

[fromthe heart]

You can love unconditional but most relationships in life have emotional conditions. I think it all has top do with the amount of deciet one has dealt with. I love unconditionally but that doesn't mean I don't get my feelings hurt from time to time from expectations not met. There should be no expectations but there always are when you think a person is one way and find later they aren't.


As was already stated we should love other's above ourselves but conditions is an act of human nature.

[Victor]

There should be no expectations but there always are when you think a person is one way and find later they aren't.

Perhaps for us no, but I'm sure you will agree that God does indeed expect something from us. Loving someone is indeed unconditional, but don't confuse this with a relationship.

~Victor

[Scuba Pete]

Victor,

I really didn't expect a "response" from my daughter or son when I changed their diapers. In fact with the latter, I was routinely peed upon (the little ingrate! )

[Victor]

Originally Posted by NetDoc

Victor,

I really didn't expect a "response" from my daughter or son when I changed their diapers. In fact with the latter, I was routinely peed upon (the little ingrate! )

Of course not ND...but you will once they begin to understand.

~Victor