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Old 01-26-2012, 08:59 PM
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I believe Jainism is very similar to Veg Atheists.
1. Both have arrived at the conclusion that there is no God who created
The World.
2. Both practise REAL compassion to all the living beings , including
Animals.

Just wondering if Veggy Atheists have ever considered Jainism
or discarded it due to
1 lack of information.
2. too small to consider.
3. Too hard to follow.
4. Analysed and discarded due to a conflict in belief.

In indian system of religion classification , Jainism is classified
As Atheist System.

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Old 01-27-2012, 07:27 AM
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I believe Jainism is very similar to Veg Atheists.
1. Both have arrived at the conclusion that there is no God who created
The World.
That could be, but the vegetarian atheists certainly wouldn't recognise it, as most atheists (at least in my experience) don't care enough about religion to really study it out. My son is a vegetarian atheist and he's never heard of Jainism.
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:47 PM
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I believe Jainism is very similar to Veg Atheists.
1. Both have arrived at the conclusion that there is no God who created
The World.
2. Both practise REAL compassion to all the living beings , including
Animals.

Just wondering if Veggy Atheists have ever considered Jainism
or discarded it due to
1 lack of information.
2. too small to consider.
3. Too hard to follow.
4. Analysed and discarded due to a conflict in belief.

In indian system of religion classification , Jainism is classified
As Atheist System.
My guess is that atheists who are vegetarian did not become vegetarian because they wanted to find a religion/philosophy that incorporates being a vegetarian.
So they are probably not any more (or any less) interested in Jainism that in any other religion.
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:22 PM
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2. Both practise REAL compassion to all the living beings, including Animals.
No, not necessarily. Just because you don't eat meat doesn't you're always compassionate to animals. Vegetarians can wear leather or beat their dogs.

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In indian system of religion classification , Jainism is classified As Atheist System.
It's atheist, but it's not naturalist. There are still supernatural souls, reincarnation, karma, etc. Unless I see some evidence of such things, then I'm not interested in Jainism.
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"both arrived at the conclusion that there is no God?"

When did atheists arrive at that conclusion?
Strong atheists maybe, but not your basic, weak atheists.
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Old 01-28-2012, 12:37 PM
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No, not necessarily. Just because you don't eat meat doesn't you're always compassionate to animals. Vegetarians can wear leather or beat their dogs.

It's atheist, but it's not naturalist. There are still supernatural souls, reincarnation, karma, etc. Unless I see some evidence of such things, then I'm not interested in Jainism.

Hi Splarnst,

I looked at your blog. I am impressed. Clearly , you have done a lot of investigation in all kind of things in life and come to your current conclusion.

Can you define precisely two words you mentioned in you reply so that I understand where you come from:

1. Supernatural
2. Evidence

Looking forward to the reply.

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No, not necessarily. Just because you don't eat meat doesn't you're always compassionate to animals. Vegetarians can wear leather or beat their dogs.
They can, but I doubt many, if any do.
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I believe Jainism is very similar to Veg Atheists.
1. Both have arrived at the conclusion that there is no God who created
The World.
2. Both practise REAL compassion to all the living beings , including
Animals.
Yes, but there are no souls or reincarnation, as Splarnst said.

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Just wondering if Veggy Atheists have ever considered Jainism
or discarded it due to
1 lack of information.
2. too small to consider.
3. Too hard to follow.
4. Analysed and discarded due to a conflict in belief.

In indian system of religion classification , Jainism is classified
As Atheist System.
It's far too spiritual, dharmic, moral-focused, and earth-centre for me. Also, I think many would consider Jainism atheistic, being that atheism is a theological view that may pertain to a religion, and being that Jainism doesn't believe in Gods, it is thereby atheistic.

An atheist doesn't have to believe in evolution, can believe in an afterlife, can believe in unicorns, can even believe the Sun has a big ol' smiley face and talks to us. Just can't believe in God, if they do they are no longer an atheist.
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Old 01-28-2012, 05:28 PM
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Actually, a lot of famous atheists are vegetarians or at least have symphony to the animal rights idea, so just take a man like Richard Dawkins or Charles Darwin and compare them to a 'hardcore' Jain
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The best definition of supernatural that I have seen is “mental things which cannot be reduced to nonmental things,” but it requires some explanation.

I don't have a strict definition of evidence. Really, it's anything that makes a proposition more likely to be true. I prefer evidence accessible to everyone (i.e., not subjective experience [mysticism] or perception [aesthetics]) because I think it's stronger, but I'll take what I can get.
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