Christians; Are Modern Prophets worth anything?

[Pegg]

Originally Posted by ForeverFaithful

I've been reading some Ellen White and absording some info from some of Mormon friends about Joseph Smith, not that I'm an Adventist or a Mormon myself, as of yet

Yet the vast majority of Christians reject prophets entirely, despite Paul speaking highly of them,

What's the deal, care to explain?

1 Cor 13:8 Love never fails. But whether there are [gifts of] prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with. 9 For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially; 10 but when that which is complete arrives, that which is partial will be done away with

in their time, the prophets were valuable, but the work of prophesying was for a purpose and once that purpose was complete, they would not be needed anymore.

Prophesying was for the purpose of revealing Gods word to mankind... once that word has been made known, what more is there to say? That is why Paul said that there will come a time when prophesying will stop or 'be done away with'. Thats why we dont believe there are any prophets around today or anytime since the completion of the greek scriptures....the NT is the final word from God. Its all we need.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by JacobEzra

Well, how long was it from the last prophet of Israel till John the Baptist? IT wouldn't be that long since there was no prophets. Not to mention, with Christianity, the era of revelation has past with the end of the life of Jesus. What would the end of revelation, need more revelation?

A prophet is not needed since revelation is done.

The role of a prophet involves much, much more than merely prophesying. It involves maintaining the purity of Christian doctrine so that mankind wouldn't be "tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine," (you know, so that pagan emperors wouldn't have to convene councils to make religious decisions ). Paul specifically listed the various positions Jesus Christ had established when He built His Church. He named prophets, apostles, pastors, teachers and evangelists. (I don't recall seeing popes and cardinals in the list.) Furthermore, he said that these were to continue to exist until we all came into a unity of faith. The fact that there are over 30,000 different Christian denominations in existance today is proof that we are less unified than ever. Had Christ's church continued to function under the leadership, direction, and organization He personally established, we would today be one Church, not many.

Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing in the Bible that says God intends to stop revealing himself to mankind. We need His personal guidance now more than we ever have.

[silvermoon383]

Originally Posted by JacobEzra

Well, what prophets have come since? When has God added to the story?

As to appearance before St. Paul, vision to St. Peter and the book of Revelation, that is not prophecy and not much of a revelation. Show me an Isaiah and I will believe you.

Well....you could always read the Book of Mormon Ancient American scripture brought to man via Joseph Smith, who also recorded modern revelations in the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price. Ever since 1820 there's been a prophet on the planet.

[JacobEzra]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

The role of a prophet involves much, much more than merely prophesying. It involves maintaining the purity of Christian doctrine so that mankind wouldn't be "tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine," (you know, so that pagan emperors wouldn't have to convene councils to make religious decisions ). Paul specifically listed the various positions Jesus Christ had established when He built His Church. He named prophets, apostles, pastors, teachers and evangelists. (I don't recall seeing popes and cardinals in the list.) Furthermore, he said that these were to continue to exist until we all came into a unity of faith. The fact that there are over 30,000 different Christian denominations in existance today is proof that we are less unified than ever. Had Christ's church continued to function under the leadership, direction, and organization He personally established, we would today be one Church, not many.

Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing in the Bible that says God intends to stop revealing himself to mankind. We need His personal guidance now more than we ever have.

lol for such a pure church with pure doctrine, none of it is really that old Show me a modern prophet? Only ones I have herd of were either crazies like Koresh, or complete frauds (like the ones who are JW )

[JacobEzra]

Originally Posted by silvermoon383

Well....you could always read the Book of Mormon Ancient American scripture brought to man via Joseph Smith, who also recorded modern revelations in the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price. Ever since 1820 there's been a prophet on the planet.

Ancient American? Joseph Smith = prophet? And the rest of your post? Right

[silvermoon383]

Don't knock it until you read for yourself.

[JacobEzra]

Im sorry, but the idea that Israelites came here and whatnot, is just incredibly ridiculous.

[silvermoon383]

More ridiculous than the idea that an axe head can float? Or a donkey can talk? Or that a yell can bring down a city? More crazy than the idea that a man crippled from birth can walk with just a word, or that people came come back froze the dead without being a zombie or vampire?

[JacobEzra]

Originally Posted by silvermoon383

More ridiculous than the idea that an axe head can float? Or a donkey can talk? Or that a yell can bring down a city? More crazy than the idea that a man crippled from birth can walk with just a word, or that people came come back froze the dead without being a zombie or vampire?

Even more

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by JacobEzra

Even more

You just don't like the idea that Jesus discovered America before Columbus did, but there is nothing about Mormon doctrine that is any more "ridiculous" than mainstream Christian doctrine. It's just a matter of what you believe and what you don't believe.