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Old 03-14-2005, 10:30 AM
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I do not believe that a person needs to speak to people in order to evangelise. You need not ask a person if he or she is saved.
How can a person get Born-again if he doesn't know what he has to do to get saved? So you're just walking around being the "light of the world" and watching people accept Jesus Christ as their saviour left and right?

Jesus DOES tell us to be the light of the world- that is because the world is darkness and we are to have no part in darkness. We are to be separate- this is a completely different concept than preaching and truly giving the gospel to people. They are to see that we are different yes, but they are still condemned unless they accept Jesus Christ as their saviour- if they don't know that they NEED to admit they are a sinner, ask Jesus personally into their heart and be changed with the holy spirit- they are going to hell- HOW can you think that you "don't need to ask people if they're saved?" Don't their souls MATTER? We are to have compassion-

if your sister or brother looks green in the face and is throwing up- do you just "act healthy" in the hope that they wil automatically get better? NO! you give them medicine and ask them how they're feeling and ask them what ails them!
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Old 03-14-2005, 10:46 AM
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It was because someone did what Jesus commanded them at matthew 28;19-20 and came to my door, that i now have the hope from the bible, so i would have to say that i dont think going from door to door is no use , i think it is just how jesus told his followers to tell others about the kingdom message
I'm sorry I missed this May. It's been a while since you posted it .

The verse doesn't carry much weight to me, because it is habitually mistranslated. "Go" is a participle just like "baptizing" and "teaching," and as such, is not a command. This is one of those one learns about in a Greek class with the explanation that it will never make it into a Bible translated in a more accurate fashion .

The command in the verse is "make disciples." All the other verbs are part of it, but describe it. "As you go," for instance, is a valid translation. That, in its turn doesn't forbid door-to-door, but it also can't be used to establish it either.
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Old 03-14-2005, 10:50 AM
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how else do you "make disciples" (which are followers of Jesus Christ) unless you tell them that they need to be saved, how to be saved, and how to follow Jesus? They MUST be shown scripture (that is called preaching).

you don't make disciples of Jesus by acting like a good Christian and hoping that everyone will sort of figure it out by the way you act.
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Old 03-14-2005, 10:54 AM
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how else do you "make disciples" (which are followers of Jesus Christ) unless you tell them that they need to be saved, how to be saved, and how to follow Jesus? They MUST be shown scripture (that is called preaching).

you don't make disciples of Jesus by acting like a good Christian and hoping that everyone will sort of figure it out by the way you act.
If one is humble and kind, the topic will come up, and then, your words will have more force than any sermon could ever have. So, basically, I concern myself with my own salvation principally, and as I work out my salvation, others will see what I say and what I do.
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Evangelism can be done with or without words:

I Peter 3:1 Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, 2 when they see the purity and reverence of your lives.

Actions ALWAYS speak louder than words!!!
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Evangelism can be done with or without words:

I Peter 3:1 Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, 2 when they see the purity and reverence of your lives.

Actions ALWAYS speak louder than words!!!
Your head is going to hurt for that after about two hours .
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this is referring to the submissive position that wives have to their husbands. 1 Tim 2:9-15:In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

How do you expect a person to know how to be saved if you just act good? In the case of preaching, actions do NOT speak louder than words? No one who justifies "lifestyle evangelism" can come up with supportable scripture.
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how else do you "make disciples" (which are followers of Jesus Christ) unless you tell them that they need to be saved, how to be saved, and how to follow Jesus? They MUST be shown scripture (that is called preaching).

you don't make disciples of Jesus by acting like a good Christian and hoping that everyone will sort of figure it out by the way you act.
It's not that they will "sort of figure it out", but that your behavior creates a curiousity that leads them to ask questions.

I was (and still am) totally turned off by hardcore evangelists. I was attracted to Christianity first by the behavior of my Christian acquaintances. The evangelists drove me away. I doubt I am the only person this has happened to.
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It's not that they will "sort of figure it out", but that your behavior creates a curiousity that leads them to ask questions
Please, find some scripture to support this.
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Please, find some scripture to support this.
Go back and read some earlier posts. Others have already posted information. I believe Netdoc gave a valid answer. It's all in your interpretation.
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