Queen of Denmark denounces Islam (Jesus, churches, pray, bless)

[DakotaGypsy]

I must also add that Kowaki has a nice piece by Max Kimball. I must check out Kimbal's credentials.

[Judgement Day]

Originally Posted by DakotaGypsy

Excellent points, Seyorni. I must also add that mob action by Muslims also convinces this Atheist that Islam is a violent religion, like the others.

And mob actions by Atheists convinces this Muslim that Atheist is violent?

[DakotaGypsy]

OK, care to document the mob actions by Atheists?

[Judgement Day]

That does not answer my question.

[DakotaGypsy]

Well, first of all, I'd like to know if Atheists have actually done any mob actions.

If they haven't, why ask the question?

[Judgement Day]

Maybe, we just dont know because the media dont focus on this particular issue very much. But isnt it naif to say that no Atheists has done any violent actions?

[Bright-ness' Shadow]

Originally Posted by Judgement Day

Maybe, we just dont know because the media dont focus on this particular issue very much. But isnt it naif to say that no Atheists has done any violent actions?

It really is a fallacy to try to justify or mitigate any violence by saying others are violent or may have done violence. It just does not excuse the violence of Muslims nor the historical Puritans nor the historical Inquistions and Crusades.

[Judgement Day]

Originally Posted by Pah

It really is a fallacy to try to justify or mitigate any violence by saying others are violent or may have done violence. It just does not excuse the violence of Muslims nor the historical Puritans nor the historical Inquistions and Crusades.

Absolutely, I agree with you. But the point Im trying to make is that it is not right to justify a religion based on actions of a few people. I dont consider Christians, nor Jews nor any other religion violent just because their followers did something stupid.

JD

[Bright-ness' Shadow]

Originally Posted by Judgement Day

Absolutely, I agree with you. But the point Im trying to make is that it is not right to justify a religion based on actions of a few people. I dont consider Christians, nor Jews nor any other religion violent just because their followers did something stupid.

JD

The problem is that in those examples I used, it showed the violence of the time. The religions then were violent. As long as Muslim extremists are allowed by mainstream Islamic clergy to be as they are, the label fits. The pervasive silence of the mainstream gives consent to the extreme.

[Judgement Day]

Originally Posted by Pah

The problem is that in those examples I used, it showed the violence of the time. The religions then were violent. As long as Muslim extremists are allowed by mainstream Islamic clergy to be as they are, the label fits. The pervasive silence of the mainstream gives consent to the extreme.

Hmm..You may have mistakenly understood between the meaning of Islam and Muslim. Islam is the religion while Muslim is one that embraces that religion but doesnt necessarily practice Islamic teaching. Islamic leaders needs to take action to prevent these violence indeed. To make changes with power is the most effective way as accordingly to the following proverb:

"If you can change a wrong with your hand change it, If not then change it with your mouth, if you can do naught else change it with your head and your heart."

But I think a lot of Muslims already had taken actions although the media doesnt seem to focus on it. So Muslims are not completely silent.

JD