Georgia Parents Torture Adopted Daughter, Say They Were Just Following The Bible

[LeftishBritInPA]

Georgia Parents Torture Adopted Daughter, Say They Were Just Following The Bible | Addicting Info

If there was ever a case that proves once and for all why the Bible has never been and should never be the basis for American law, this is it.

Diana and Samuel Franklin are the adoptive parents of a 15 year old girl. And they never should have been allowed to adopt any child whatsoever. Over the last two years, the Franklins have been torturing the girl by locking her up in a chicken coop for days, locking her in a small claustrophobic outhouse, and forcing her to wear a shock collar controlled by a remote. Authorities also found a leather belt that may have been used to beat the girl.

[BSM1]

Another argument for requiring a license to be a parent.

[ZZKBKB55]

If there was ever a case that proves once and for all why the Bible has never been and should never be the basis for American law, this is it.

Diana and Samuel Franklin are the adoptive parents of a 15 year old girl. And they never should have been allowed to adopt any child whatsoever. Over the last two years, the Franklins have been torturing the girl by locking her up in a chicken coop for days, locking her in a small claustrophobic outhouse, and forcing her to wear a shock collar controlled by a remote. Authorities also found a leather belt that may have been used to beat the girl.

I think that as a Christian you'd know that there is nothing in the Bible that justifies what these parents did. They are either both insane, or so far from the mainstream of Christianity so as to be a statistical abnormality.

Looking at the source though, it seems to be a highly biased far-left source looking to smear all Christians.

[The Sum of Awe]

Sounds harsh

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by ZZKBKB55

I think that as a Christian you'd know that there is nothing in the Bible that justifies what these parents did.

Quite right. If they were acting Biblically, they would have killed her:

Matthew 15:1-10

1 Then some Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, 2 “Why do Your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread.” 3 And He answered and said to them, “Why do you yourselves transgress the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘ Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘ He who speaks evil of father or mother is to [a]be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever I have that would help you has been [b]given to God,” 6 he is not to honor his father or his mother[c].’ And by this you invalidated the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites, rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you:

8 ‘ This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
9 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’”

[LeftishBritInPA]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

Quite right. If they were acting Biblically, they would have killed her:

Matthew 15:1-10

Right on. And that's not all Je$us said in the New Testament:

Jesus said lots of hateful stuff that is ignored by Christians, such as "I come not in peace, but with a sword" etc.

Examples from just ONE BOOK of the GOSPELS:

Matthew


Those who bear bad fruit will be cut down and burned "with unquenchable fire." 3:10, 12

Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. 5:17

Jesus recommends that to avoid sin we cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes. This advice is given immediately after he says that anyone who looks with lust at any women commits adultery. 5:29-30

Jesus says that most people will go to hell. 7:13-14

Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 7:19

"The children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 8:12

Jesus tells a man who had just lost his father: "Let the dead bury the dead." 8:21

Jesus sends some devils into a herd of pigs, causing them to run off a cliff and drown in the waters below. 8:32

Cities that neither "receive" the disciples nor "hear" their words will be destroyed by God. It will be worse for them than for Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God supposedly did to those poor folks (see Gen.19:24). 10:14-15

Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." 10:21

Jesus says that we should fear God who is willing and "able to destroy both soul and body in hell." 10:28

Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." 10:34-36

Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. 11:20-24

Jesus will send his angels to gather up "all that offend" and they "shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." 13:41-42, 50

Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: "He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death." (See Ex.21:15, Lev. 20: 9, Dt.21:18-21) So, does Jesus think that children who curse their parents should be killed? It sure sounds like it. 15:4-7

Jesus advises his followers to mutilate themselves by cutting off their hands and plucking out their eyes. He says it's better to be "maimed" than to suffer "everlasting fire." 18:8-9

In the parable of the unforgiving servant, the king threatens to enslave a man and his entire family to pay for a debt. This practice, which was common at the time, seems not to have bothered Jesus very much. The parable ends with this: "So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you." If you are cruel to others, God will be cruel to you. 18:23-35

"And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors." 18:34

God is like a rich man who owns a vineyard and rents it to poor farmers. When he sends servants to collect the rent, the tenants beat or kill them. So he sent his son to collect the rent, and they kill him too. Then the owner comes and kills the farmers and rents the vineyard to others. 21:33-41

"Whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder." Whoever falls on "this stone" (Jesus) will be broken, and whomever the stone falls on will be ground into powder. 21:44

In the parable of the marriage feast, the king sends his servants to gather everyone they can find, both bad and good, to come to the wedding feast. One guest didn't have on his wedding garment, so the king tied him up and "cast him into the outer darkness" where "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 22:12-13

Jesus had no problem with the idea of drowning everyone on earth in the flood. It'll be just like that when he returns. 24:37

God will come when people least expect him and then he'll "cut them asunder." And "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 24:50-51

The servant who kept and returned his master's talent was cast into the "outer darkness" where there will be "weeping and gnashing of teeth." 25:30

Jesus tells us what he has planned for those that he dislikes. They will be cast into an "everlasting fire." 25:41

Jesus says the damned will be tormented forever. 25:46

I don't see any religion of love here. There are many more verses like this in the NT.

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As for the religious apologists, stop trying to play word games and use dodgy logical fallacies. Here's your logic reduced to a syllogism...

A) Nobody who does anything bad is ever motivated by religious faith, even if they say they are, use it as a defense, and explain why.
B) Nobody who does anything good would do it without religious motivation, even if they flat out state their lack of god beliefs.

I'm sure all group A use sugar in their porridge too.

[Odion]

I'm pretty sure that the Bible doesn't have any commandments to stick your children in chicken coops or put them in shock collars for not doing chores.

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

Quite right. If they were acting Biblically, they would have killed her:

Isn't death for one's child only cursing and/or striking one's parents? If I recall correctly, Judaism has exceptions for obeying one's parents, like you're not allowed to obey your parents if it involves worshipping other gods or something?

[Odion]

Originally Posted by LeftishBritInPA

I don't see any religion of love here. There are many more verses like this in the NT.

So why do you call yourself a 'secular Christian'?

[Wannabe Yogi]

Lets not place the abuse that crazy people infect on kids with the Bible.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Odion

I'm pretty sure that the Bible doesn't have any commandments to stick your children in chicken coops or put them in shock collars for not doing chores.

It does say "spare the rod, spoil the child." I don't think there's that much mental distance from beating your child to imprisoning or shocking them. The collar can just be thought of as an "electric rod".

... which isn't meant to minimize the nastiness of the parents' actions, but to point out that there are some very nasty things in the Bible.

Originally Posted by Odion

Isn't death for one's child only cursing and/or striking one's parents? If I recall correctly, Judaism has exceptions for obeying one's parents, like you're not allowed to obey your parents if it involves worshipping other gods or something?

IIRC, it's the punishment for disobedience generally. I don't recall any special dispensations like you describe, but I would think that parents trying to force their children into non-Jewish worship wouldn't care too much about Jewish laws in the first place.