The nature of God (Jesus, disciples, mission, church, Zeus)

[Natural Submission]

This is a reply to an e-mail

i am posting this on account of the other thread in this section asking where did God come from.

Is Jesus God? Our church says he is but Jeremiah's church says he isnt

[Jeremiah is a friend of ours]



The problem is that you believe God is anthropomorphic. You believe God is an old bearded man, a Zeus, up in the sky, in the clouds...

We believe God is "wheresoever you turn".


The problem is with your perception of God. You do not comprehend God with comprehension due unto Him.

God is the Mind, the Consciousness of the Universe. The Universe is the construct of the Divine Mind within itself. You cannot SEE God, just as a thought cannot see the Mind that thinks it and called it into being.

Can a Mind manifest its TOTALITY within one single thought? This would be impossible, as the Mind cannot create Itself within Itself. What is created within the Mind is THOUGHT and THOUGHT is ILLUSION. That is, when you think and envision something it is "Real" but it is ONLY "real" within the context of the fact that it was created by THAT which is REAL. You can close your eyes and think about a beautiful green pasture with sheep grazing on it... Those sheep exist only within your mind. Now can any one of those sheep ever BE you? No, of course not.

We are thoughts within the Mind of God, but we are not the Thinker and NO thought could ever be the Thinker Himself.

Man is not God. Man is nothing, just as ALL things are truly Nothing. Nothing exists ONLY God. The Universe is the construct of God's Mind and we are thoughts within it. i do not say of my thoughts in my mind that they are me, but neither is there separation between me and them or between them and each other. They simple are not the Reality, i am the Reality. So in relation to God, WE are not the Reality, God is the Reality. We are nothing but thoughts within the construct of God's Universal Mind, sitting here discussing things with other thoughts. We are not little "particles" of God, as though God is some mass that can be divided or added together. There is NOTHING, ONLY God.

[john313]

good writing. people need to realize God is not human-like or a "Zeus" as you put it up in the sky. People have too much pride to really believe that they are not like God in appearance. most people really think they are special and they will not believe they are really nothing. That is why there are so few true believers.

[Natural Submission]

Yes, God is the thinker and we are the thoughts. As so many accept the fact that the life of this world is merely a dream, most fail to ask who is the dreamer. The same way my hands are in submission to my mind, we are in submission to God. i want them to type these words as i am doing now, and my hands are in complete submission. We too must submit to God 100% the same way our hands submit to our mind. For God is the Mind. Never would my hands refuse to type these words and put themselves around my neck and choke me. My hands submit to my will. Until man can lose his-self, his "identity", mankind will fall short of such submission. This is why Jesus said the Father and i are One. As he was in complete submission to God. Only later did he say the disciples and i are one, as they reached such a level of submission. This level has become known as the Messianic Consciousness.

[retrorich]

Originally Posted by Natural Submission

[Jeremiah is a friend of ours]

Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
He was a good friend of mine.
I never understood a single word he said,
But I helped him drink his wine.

Joy to the World - Three Dog Night

[Natural Submission]

Those are some pretty deep lyrics