If God exists, please define "Exists"

[Tiapan]

If God exists, please define "Exists"

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[Buttons*]

Originally Posted by Tiapan

If God exists, please define "Exists"

Cheers

"Simply because it IS" *ooooh, got esoteric on ya!*

[Sunstone]

Interesting question. The answer, if there is one, probably has nothing to do with that misleading little word "is" and its cousin "am".

[John D]

Exo 3:14 And God said to Moses, I AM WHO I AM and WHAT I AM, and I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE; and He said, You shall say this to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you!

The "Am" - no more,no less.
To know the AM, you must learn to become the "no- one".

[Buttons*]

Originally Posted by Sunstone

Interesting question. The answer, if there is one, probably has nothing to do with that misleading little word "is".

*sigh* One day, you'll grow up and be a man. I hope that day comes soon.

[Buttons*]

Originally Posted by John D

Exo 3:14 And God said to Moses, I AM WHO I AM and WHAT I AM, and I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE; and He said, You shall say this to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you!

The "Am" - no more,no less.
To know the AM, you must learn to become the "no- one".

I'm under a similar impression.

[Onkara]

Originally Posted by Tiapan

If God exists, please define "Exists"

Cheers

Ones own existance should be "proof" enough, unless of course one takes oneself just to be the body and mind phenomena. I mean that for anything to come into existance there must be something from which it came from. That thing from which it came from should also be to some extent a part of you. Your existance is demonstrative of Gods existance.

[Baydwin]

Existance generally implies physical form within the confines of our own universe, anything beyond those confines could be argued not to exist.

[Onkara]

Originally Posted by Baydwin

Existance generally implies physical form within the confines of our own universe, anything beyond those confines could be argued not to exist.

interesting thought. I would say "could be arguned" because it has to be imagined not to exist. In order for something not to exist we must first negate it in relation to something else, for example, for the box to be emtpy, we must first acknowledge that the box itself. So existance is completely full as you said above, however is existance full completely with physical form? Personally I experience something which is not physcial i.e. thoughts. So what are thoughts and can they lead us to understanding God's existance?

[Baydwin]

Originally Posted by Onkarah

interesting thought. I would say "could be arguned" because it has to be imagined not to exist. In order for something not to exist we must first negate it in relation to something else, for example, for the box to be emtpy, we must first acknowledge that the box itself. So existance is completely full as you said above, however is existance full completely with physical form? Personally I experience something which is not physcial i.e. thoughts. So what are thoughts and can they lead us to understanding God's existance?

I didn't really mean that things beyond they universe don't possess a substance or reality of their own, just that people tend to think of things that "exist" as conforming to certain predefined standards specific to this universe.

I'd class things like thoughts, memories, even concepts as physical things, thoughts and memories because they are composed of protein and electricity, and concepts because they rely on a host (a bit like a parasite), be it a mind, an electronic file or a piece of paper in order to have existence.