Bible errors or Bible passages contradict each other. (priests, Moses)

[SoulTYPE]

If you look at these two, they kind of contradict each other, even if NOT taken out of context.


PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.


One says God is good to all, but the next states he will not pity or spare one, but destroy them.

[MagickIsFun]

that is so tru. very contradictory.

[Scuba Pete]

Complex? Maybe. Contradictory? No.

Different verses were written to different people and at different times in their lives.

[pcarl]

There are more than a few 'errors' in the Bible:

God gives messages to Moses for the Israelites, which Moses liberally edits or reinterprets (Ex. 19:15), suggesting God's voice and Moses's are not one. There are also contradictions within God's voice. God tells Moses, for example, that he will come down in a thick cloud (Ex. 19:9) and yet comes down in fire (Ex.19:18). God says he will speak to Israel in order that they trust Moses (Ex. 19:9) and a few verses later in order that they should fear God (Ex. 19:17). God tells Moses several contradictory instructions about who can come up to the mountain so that even Moses expresses his confusion. "The people cannot come up to Mount Sinai, for You warned us saying, 'Set bounds about the mountain and sanctify it...'" (Ex. 19:23). In Exodus 19:22 priests are called up to the mountain, while in verse 24 they are told they should not come up, and a few chapters later (Ex. 24:1) it is now not the priests but the elders who are invited, to name a few.

There are different interpretations of what inerrancy means.
For Southern Baptists, inerrancy means that the original biblical text was composed precisely as God inspired it and intended it to be because of God's superintendence: not just the thought comes from God, but every word with every inflection, every verse and line, and every tense of the verb, every number of the noun, and every little particle are regarded as coming from God. Scripture is "God-breathed," and God does not breathe falsehood, so the text is faithful and true in all it affirms, including the miracle accounts, the attributed authors, and the historical narratives. The 1978 and 1982 Chicago statements on biblical inerrancy are representative of this doctrine.

For Roman Catholics, inerrancy is understood as a consequence of biblical inspiration; it has to do more with the truth of the Bible as a whole than with any theory of verbal inerrancy. Vatican II says that "the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching firmly, faithfully, and without error that truth which God wanted put into the sacred writings for the sake of our salvation" (Dei Verbum 11). What is important is the qualification of "that truth" with "for the sake of our salvation."

[SoulTYPE]

Originally Posted by NetDoc

Complex? Maybe. Contradictory? No.

Different verses were written to different people and at different times in their lives.

But you must remember MR Frubals thatthey all describe the same general concept.

[Master Vigil]

"Different verses were written to different people and at different times in their lives."

Sure, but still contradictory. Just because different people wrote them doesn't mean they can change like that and not be contradictory. It is supposed to be "divinely inspired" isn't it? Why did this inspiration mess up?

[Scuba Pete]

I just don't see any mess ups.

Take the first verse... I agree with the first passage completely! He does show his mercy on everyone. But there are a few who decide to mock God's mercy. They become a blight on humanity. So God, not wishing that everyone should be hurt by these few visits his wrath upon them. They had his mercy until, for the greater good, God had to take them out. When you get to that point expect no mercy.

Our local, state and national laws are to PROTECT EVERYONE'S FREEDOM. Even those who are incarcerated by it. Does that show a contradiction? Nope. Does that show that the laws are messed up? Nope. It does show that there are CONSEQUENCES for disobedience. Is it now God's fault that we are disobedient? Nope... just ours.

[pcarl]

<If you put the bible out in the wind and rain, the words will soon decay, fall apart, and blow away. My bible is the wind and rain.>


Interesting. Thought the quote sounded familiar;


"If you take the Christian Bible and put it out in the wind and the rain, soon the paper on which the words are printed will disintegrate and the words will be gone. Our bible IS the wind." Statement by an anonymous Native woman
"Rather than going to church, I attend a sweat lodge; rather than accepting bread and toast [sic] from the Holy Priest, I smoke a ceremonial pipe to come into Communion with the Great Spirit; and rather than kneeling with my hands placed together in prayer, I let sweetgrass be feathered over my entire being for spiritual cleansing and allow the smoke to carry my prayers into the heavens. I am a Mi'kmaq, and this is how we pray." Noah Augustine, from his article "Grandfather was a knowing Christian, Toronto Star, Toronto ON Canada, 2000-AUG-9.

[Master Vigil]

NetDoc, I'm sorry, I just don't believe any person knows what god does to whome god does it to and when god does it. But I can read what the bible says, and it contradicts.

Pcarl, That is where I got the quote from. But I didn't remember it word for word, so I improvised with it.

[john313]

Originally Posted by SoulTYPE01

If you look at these two, they kind of contradict each other, even if NOT taken out of context.


PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

One says God is good to all, but the next states he will not pity or spare one, but destroy them.

You are assuming that God's mercy cannot be the same as destroying them. Perhaps by destroying them he is saving them from future evil works and more damage to their souls and a deeper level of Hell.
Mercy has more than one meaning: the first one could be "a blessing that is an act of divine favor " and the second one could be "compassionate treatment of those in distress " --http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=mercy
So in the Jeremiah passage, they still have his blessing that is an act of divine favor, but he is not going to show them compassionate treatment, possibly for their own good.