atheism and communism

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It seems those who do not believe in God have killed far far more people than those who do believe in God.

Atheism - Conservapedia

Karl Marx said "[Religion] is the opium of the people".[18] Marx also stated: "Communism begins from the outset (Owen) with atheism; but atheism is at first far from being communism; indeed, that atheism is still mostly an abstraction."[19]
Vladimir Lenin similarly wrote regarding atheism and communism: "A Marxist must be a materialist, i. e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i. e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the class struggle which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could."[20]
The atheism in communist regimes has been and continues to be militant atheism and various acts of repression including the razing of thousands of religious buildings and the killing, imprisoning, and oppression of religious leaders and believers.[21][22][23][24][25][26][27] In the atheistic and communist Soviet Union, 44 anti religious museums were opened and the largest was the 'The Museum of the History of Religion and Atheism' in Leningrad’s Kazan cathedral.[28] Despite intense effort by the atheistic leaders of the Soviet Union, their efforts were not effective in converting the masses to atheism.[29][30]
China is a communist country that is also officially atheistic.[31] In 1999, the publication Christian Century reported that "China has persecuted religious believers by means of "harassment, prolonged detention, and incarceration in prison or `reform-through-labor' camps and police closure of places of worship."[25] In 2003, owners of Bibles in China were sent to prison camps and 125 Chinese churches were closed.[26] China continues to practice religious oppression today.[27] According to Asian Economic News, in 2004 the atheistic and communist government of China had an internal document which directed the Chinese media to promote atheism, instructed internet media to remove user comments that advocate alternative spiritual views, and called for a ban on publications that disseminate religious material out of step with Marxism or atheism.[32] The efforts of China's atheist leaders in promoting atheism, however, is increasing losing its effectiveness and the number of Christians in China is explosively growing.[33]
North Korea is a repressive communist state and is officially atheistic.[34] The North Korean government practices brutal repression and atrocities against North Korean Christians.[23][24]

Trofim Denisovich Lysenko


It has been estimated that in less than the past 100 years, governments under the banner of communism have caused the death of somewhere between 40,472,000 to 259,432,000 human lives.[35][36][37][38][39][40] Dr. R. J. Rummel, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Hawaii, is the scholar who first coined the term democide (death by government). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to communism is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987.[41]
The theory of evolution played a prominent role in regards to atheistic communism.[42]The Darwinian foundation of communism</ref> Communists, in particular Stalinists, favored a version of Lamarckism called Lysenkoism developed by the atheist Trofim Denisovich Lysenko.[43] Lysenko was made member of the Supreme Soviet and head of the Institute of Genetics of the Soviet Academy of Sciences.[44] Later Lysenko became President of the All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences.[44] Many geneticists were imprisoned and executed for their bourgeois science, and agricultural policies based on Lysenkoism that were adopted under Stalin and Mao caused famines and the death of millions

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Atheism and Mass Murder

Joseph Stalin's atheistic regime killed tens of millions of people.

See main article: Atheism and Mass Murder Christian apologist Gregory Koukl wrote relative to atheism and mass murder that "the assertion is that religion has caused most of the killing and bloodshed in the world. There are people who make accusations and assertions that are empirically false. This is one of them."[48] Koukl details the number of people killed in various events involving theism and compares them to the much higher tens of millions of people killed under regimes which advocated atheism.[48]
Koukl summarized by stating: It is true that it's possible that religion can produce evil, and generally when we look closer at the detail it produces evil because the individual people are actually living in a rejection of the tenets of Christianity and a rejection of the God that they are supposed to be following. So it can produce it, but the historical fact is that outright rejection of God and institutionalizing of atheism actually does produce evil on incredible levels. We're talking about tens of millions of people as a result of the rejection of God.[48]
“ It is true that it's possible that religion can produce evil, and generally when we look closer at the detail it produces evil because the individual people are actually living in a rejection of the tenets of Christianity and a rejection of the God that they are supposed to be following. So it can produce it, but the historical fact is that outright rejection of God and institutionalizing of atheism actually does produce evil on incredible levels. We're talking about tens of millions of people as a result of the rejection of God.[48] ”

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn


Nobel Prize winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was asked to account for the great tragedies that occurred under the brutal communist regime he and fellow citizens suffered under.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn stated the following in relation to atheism:
"Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.
Since then I have spend well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened."[49]
“ Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened. Since then I have spend well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened."[49]

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by idea

It seems those who do not believe in God have killed far far more people than those who do believe in God.

Atheism - Conservapedia

I stopped right here. Get back to us when you have an actual reliable source, not Conservapedia.

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This old chestnut

[Nepenthe]

I'm posting in an Idea thread!
Conservapedia...

[idea]

Originally Posted by Nepenthe

You think the deaths of millions of people by atheist communists is funny?
Liberals really are sick.

Let me guess, you don't think any religious people were/are targeted by atheist communists - and you don't believe the holocaust happened?

[idea]

Originally Posted by mball1297

I stopped right here. Get back to us when you have an actual reliable source, not Conservapedia.

Get back to me when you can honestly refute anything that was quoted above.

[Humanistheart]

Originally Posted by idea

You think the deaths of millions of people by atheist communists is funny?
Liberals really are sick.

Let me guess, you don't think any religious people were/are targeted by atheist communists - and you don't believe the holocaust happened?

I think it's funny that you believe that drivel. And that you connect liberals with atheists automatically.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by idea

Get back to me when you can honestly refute anything that was quoted above.

Get back to me when there's something worth my time to refute. And again, try to get it from something at least remotely reliable.

[Nepenthe]

Originally Posted by idea

You think the deaths of millions of people by atheist communists is funny?
Liberals really are sick.

Let me guess, you don't think any religious people were/are targeted by atheist communists - and you don't believe the holocaust happened?

You're something of an idiot aren't you? Don't accuse me of holocaust denial and don't use a propoganda source that overtly lies to bolster your stupidity.