Religion in school (choice, America, church, atheist, religions)

[Mr Spinkles]

Also-- FROG, do you really think the courts were wrong when they decided the Bill of Rights should gaurantee those rights against the state as well as federal government?

States should be able to censor your freedom of speech and religion?

States should be able to convict you without due process or a grand jury?

States should be able to try you twice for the same crime (double jeopardy)?

States should be able to search and seize things of yours unreasonably?

States should be able to stop you from assembling peacefully or petitioning the government?

And that's not even all of them...

[Mr Spinkles]

Also-- FROG, do you really think the courts were wrong when they decided the Bill of Rights should gaurantee those rights against the state as well as federal government?

States should be able to censor your freedom of speech and religion?

States should be able to convict you without due process or a grand jury?

States should be able to try you twice for the same crime (double jeopardy)?

States should be able to search and seize things of yours unreasonably?

States should be able to stop you from assembling peacefully or petitioning the government?

And that's not even all of them...

[Runt]

Actually, it wasn't just a court case that applied the Bill of Rights to the states. It was actually the 14th ammendment, which started the Incorporation Doctrine of implying the Bill of Rights to the states.

Amendment XIV, Section 1: "All persons born or nationalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, libery, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

This implies the First Amendment to the states once and for all. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

[Runt]

Actually, it wasn't just a court case that applied the Bill of Rights to the states. It was actually the 14th ammendment, which started the Incorporation Doctrine of implying the Bill of Rights to the states.

Amendment XIV, Section 1: "All persons born or nationalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, libery, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

This implies the First Amendment to the states once and for all. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

[VictorP]

i think religion in schools is just fine. maybe it could be taught as an elective history class or something. i mean, religion is very prominent in today's society, and it would only help kids to be more knowledgeable and cultured.

[VictorP]

i think religion in schools is just fine. maybe it could be taught as an elective history class or something. i mean, religion is very prominent in today's society, and it would only help kids to be more knowledgeable and cultured.

[Mr Spinkles]

I agree with you VictorP, but I think FROG is proposing more religion in school than just freely-chosen electives (I think!).

[Mr Spinkles]

I agree with you VictorP, but I think FROG is proposing more religion in school than just freely-chosen electives (I think!).

[F_R_O_G]

I just don't see how to federal government has any bissness in school... it's up to the states. And a classroom that teaches there are morals and absolutes is not restricting anyone’s rights. it's up to each state to deside how to run there schools.

[F_R_O_G]

I just don't see how to federal government has any bissness in school... it's up to the states. And a classroom that teaches there are morals and absolutes is not restricting anyone’s rights. it's up to each state to deside how to run there schools.