Religion in school (choice, America, church, atheist, religions)

[painted wolf]

I have it in thier own writing that some of them were not christian... How is that not proof?

anyway... their already exists a system of religious educaion... I don't see why we have to expand this system to include the secular system.

you have given no addiquite reasoning for this..

wa:-do

[painted wolf]

I have it in thier own writing that some of them were not christian... How is that not proof?

anyway... their already exists a system of religious educaion... I don't see why we have to expand this system to include the secular system.

you have given no addiquite reasoning for this..

wa:-do

[Runt]

MOST of them framers were Christian, I will admit that... although there was actually one atheist and three deists, and one who later held Unitarian beliefs (despite the fact that the UU church had not yet been created). However, they may have been primarily Christian, but they were not all the same KIND of Christian... and therefore had very different views on what a "Christian nation" should be. Therefore, they created the establishment clause so that NONE of them would be able to dictate what a "Christian nation" should be, and therefore eliminated the chance of this being a "Christian nation". However, Christian religious education was okay for a while, but as the religious demographics of the nation changed to being even LESS Christian, this no longer became desireable, because OTHER religions don't want have Christianity taught to their children in school.

Framers' Religions:

Congregationalist
Episcopalian
Dutch Reformed
Presbyterian
Deist
Quaker/Lutheran
Quaker/Episcopalian
Roman Catholic
Methodist
Lutheran
Atheist

[Runt]

MOST of them framers were Christian, I will admit that... although there was actually one atheist and three deists, and one who later held Unitarian beliefs (despite the fact that the UU church had not yet been created). However, they may have been primarily Christian, but they were not all the same KIND of Christian... and therefore had very different views on what a "Christian nation" should be. Therefore, they created the establishment clause so that NONE of them would be able to dictate what a "Christian nation" should be, and therefore eliminated the chance of this being a "Christian nation". However, Christian religious education was okay for a while, but as the religious demographics of the nation changed to being even LESS Christian, this no longer became desireable, because OTHER religions don't want have Christianity taught to their children in school.

Framers' Religions:

Congregationalist
Episcopalian
Dutch Reformed
Presbyterian
Deist
Quaker/Lutheran
Quaker/Episcopalian
Roman Catholic
Methodist
Lutheran
Atheist

[F_R_O_G]

Exactly, there is no such thing as the Christian belief, but they all believed there is a god, but there is one, as you say runt that may or may not believe there’s a god, I really don't know. The one that could be an atheist and one other guy or two I think believed that Jesus was just another person... but even then, they all agreed that there are certain absolute truths and something has them.

[F_R_O_G]

Exactly, there is no such thing as the Christian belief, but they all believed there is a god, but there is one, as you say runt that may or may not believe there’s a god, I really don't know. The one that could be an atheist and one other guy or two I think believed that Jesus was just another person... but even then, they all agreed that there are certain absolute truths and something has them.

[Mr Spinkles]

An atheist does not believe there are certain and absolute truths and something has them. :P

[Mr Spinkles]

An atheist does not believe there are certain and absolute truths and something has them. :P

[painted wolf]

wich is why Jesus is never mentioned....

not everyone there believed in him as 'god' or 'saviour'...

wich is why such freedoms of religion were enshrined in the formation of the government.

wa:-do