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Old 07-02-2009, 12:28 PM
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Has anyone ever tried to compare what physicists say about our universe to what Genesis 1 says?
By translating words with what physicist might call these original Hebrew words. I found the results interesting.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:07 PM
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Has anyone ever tried to compare what physicists say about our universe to what Genesis 1 says?
By translating words with what physicist might call these original Hebrew words. I found the results interesting.
Maybe you could share these interesting results with us to stir the debate.
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Has anyone ever tried to compare what physicists say about our universe to what Genesis 1 says?
By translating words with what physicist might call these original Hebrew words. I found the results interesting.
Hopefully it was that you suck at translating and are not particularly good at physics.
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Has anyone ever tried to compare what physicists say about our universe to what Genesis 1 says?
No - I don't think anyone has ever attempted this trite and vapid intellectual exercise before.
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OK then no big deal, like I said I was just asking if anyone had done it.
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Yeah i've tried it, although probably not in a "Let's try and reconcile my beliefs with what physics says to make it seem more feasible" sorta way. At the end of the day, if you believe Genesis 1 to be the source of knowledge to the beginning of existence then you're wasting your time with physics.

However, when I was a christian (Back in the day) I do remember having an incredibly strong link in my mind between the big bang and Genesis 1:4... Although I am no longer a christian, the bible still has a place in my heart and it will always provide me with a lot of my belief system, as odd as that may sound if you know me. I distinctly remember rejecting Genesis at face value being my first step towards atheism.

Personally I feel that you're either interested in creating a logical answer or you're interested in Creation. The two mix like chocolate and gravy.

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OK then no big deal, like I said I was just asking if anyone had done it.
Jay would have done it, but the book wasn;t good enough for him so he insulted it until it went away.
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Jay would have done it, but the book wasn;t good enough for him so he insulted it until it went away.
Well I understand Jay'.

I definitely say silly things, but underneath it tidbits of truth are there. For example, I am working on a paper right now that compares the 1st chapter of Genesis to what physics says about the beginning of our universe. It will take a while to complete, but they really do go well with each other.

Of course, I have never seen anyone do this before, so it intrigued me.
Jay has pointed out in a rude way, if this undertaking is to be taken seriously, the translating would have to be respectable, and the application of physics would have to stand up to accepted views.

On the RF Jay has seen neither from me in way of respectable translation or applied physics. So it means I need to bone up if this will ever be taken serious by him or anyone else for that matter.

Why he choose to be known as a *edit* on the RF is perhaps a greater mystery than that of the bible.
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Not just Jay but me as well.

What exactly do modern physics and the book of Genesis have in common. If anything modern physics, in all it understanding including biophysics, shows that Genesis does not fit within the model of current understanding.

As Sandy says, what exactly is it that you think you have noticed that shows a correlation?
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I am working on a paper right now that compares the 1st chapter of Genesis to what physics says about the beginning of our universe. It will take a while to complete, but they really do go well with each other.
If they do go together in parts it will likely be coincidental. The Bible espouses the belief common to all cultures of the Near East at that time that the earth was a flat disc encased in a huge, physical dome (the sky) and completely surrounded from above and below by water. So when Genesis says that God made a firmament which he called heaven to divide the waters from below from the waters above, its talking about the creation of the ancient Near Eastern sky dome.

The more interesting thing about the creation story in the Bible is how it differs from the attitude of other Near Eastern cultures of the day. Namely that the creation and life is considered to be a positive thing ("God saw that it was good") where as all other cultures in the anceint Near East had a much more pessimistic view of life and the creation.

There really are so many things about ancient Israel that were far superior to the religions of the day, it makes me conclude that the Bible really is a history of God's dealings with Israel but from man's point of view.
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