It's time for a Crusade (Jesus, mystic, salvation, beliefs)

[LCMS Sprecher]

Gerani, the signature contains what is called a Luther's Rose.

"Then how do you know the Bible is divinely inspired, as opposed to any other religious text?"- Mr. Sprinkles

Faith, plain and simple. No one can explain faith. I personally believe that we as people are given Christ's love and faith freely and we automatically have them. However, we can refuse these gifts. That is what has occurred with the other religions and non-believers in the world. In the end, it comes down to personal belief.

"no one wants the bible to be in error. somehow its a fact that the bible is. it has several contradictions."- Gerani1248

This is interesting. I think you have proven my point in this one post. I have not seen one of these "biblical contridictions" ever go without getting disproved by a Christian on a basis of his or her knowledge of the Bible. Every contridiction in the Bible has been either disproved or explained (many times on this site for a matter of fact). So the previous arguments of Christians defending the Bible is not good enough? It show that there is an equal zealousness on the part of some people to continue disprove the Bible despite the fact that their arguments have been disproved time and time again.

[Mr Spinkles]

No one has ever successfully proved to Muslims that the Koran has contradictions, nor has anyone ever proved to Mormons that the Book of Mormon is full of contradictions. It is easily proved to those who were not raised Christian, Muslim, or Mormon, though. I wonder why that is...?

Anyways, we have strayed from the original topic....I would just like to suggest one thing: LCMS, try talking to Muslim apologists about all the contradictions in the Koran....you will find that no matter how obvious these contradictions may appear to you, apologists will find a way to cleverly make excuses for them.

[Ardhanariswar]

well anyone, back on topic. i believe God called us on an inner crusade. to find our innerselves and be free.

i doubt Jesus wants us to carry weapons and force people to become christian.

Jesus was quite non voilent himself. just look at the scene when Jesus was being taken away by the gaurds. one of his deciples took a sword out, but Jesus commanded him not to.

centuries later, a corrupt pope wants to control the world through religion.

eek. certainly not what jesus wants.

[LCMS Sprecher]

"LCMS, try talking to Muslim apologists about all the contradictions in the Koran....you will find that no matter how obvious these contradictions may appear to you, apologists will find a way to cleverly make excuses for them."- Mr. Sprinkles

I have, and it backs up my original statement that it ultimately comes down to belief.

[Ardhanariswar]

argh. are we talking about muslim apologists, contradictions in the qur'an or a crusade?

people, stick the the thread. theres another thread for your conversation. thx!