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Old 04-22-2009, 09:16 AM
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Default To those who take spiritual experiences seriously:
If you had a spiritual experience in which God commanded you to do something, would you do it? Are there limitations on which commands you would obey? If so, why would you question God's judgment?

EDIT: For those who don't believe in a personal god:

If some truth or insight was revealed to you through a spiritual experience in which you realized that you must do something, would you do it? Are there limitations on which things you would do? If so, why would you question the validity of the spiritual experience?
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:19 AM
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:20 AM
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How would I know it was God?
By using whatever method you used to determine that your other spiritual experiences were valid.
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:22 AM
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Well, I don't believe in deities, so it would have to be some damn good evidence. Otherwise, I would just think I've gone nuts and check myself into a mental hospital.
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:23 AM
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Well, I don't believe in deities, so it would have to be some damn good evidence. Otherwise, I would just think I've gone nuts and check myself into a mental hospital.
Haha fair enough
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:31 AM
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If you had a spiritual experience in which God commanded you to do something, would you do it?
No. I do not recognize any supposed "god" who feels a need TO command anything. In my direct experience, what some human animals refer to as "god" is not inclined to issue infantile commands. It just doesn't work that way. Those who suggest otherwise are in need of a good shrink.

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Are there limitations on which commands you would obey? If so, why would you question God's judgment?
Based on my own experience with what other human animals refer to as "god", yes, there is a limitation. That limitation is when said amorphous being commands anything whatsoever. I would tend to take a very hard, long, cold look at any individual who suggests otherwise.
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If you had a spiritual experience in which God commanded you to do something, would you do it?
If it "spoke" in a way I could comprehend, I probably wouldn't believe it to be God.

But I'll play anyway.

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Are there limitations on which commands you would obey?
Yes. I wouldn't do anything that violated my own morals.

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If so, why would you question God's judgment?
As my Papa always says, "Any God who is my moral inferior is not God/ worthy of worship."
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If I was absolutely convinced that something was God, and this God told me to do something, it would be pretty stupid not to do it - no matter what it was. I don't think I'd spit in the face of the all powerful being who created me, the universe, and everything in it. If it told me to do something, it's got a reason for doing so - and I'd be in no position to refuse.
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If some truth or insight was revealed to you through a spiritual experience in which you realized that you must do something, would you do it?
Maybe, it depends

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Are there limitations on which things you would do?
Yes, my limitations would be defined by the rational ethical foundation I`ve established while "not" having mystical/spiritual experiences.

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If so, why would you question the validity of the spiritual experience?
Because i`m aware that mystical/spiritual experiences are an emotive product of the brain.
My brain is often wrong.

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