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Old 01-20-2005, 07:48 AM
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BY CAROLINE KORNEGAY
STAFF WRITER The Daily Tarheel
January 19, 2005


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Daniel Grinder, a member of The Daily Tar Heel staff, revealed Tuesday that he was one of the three anonymous students who filed the suit after the University asked all incoming freshmen to read Michael Sells’ “Approaching the Qur’an: The Early Revelations.” The case was dismissed in September by a U.S. District Court judge.

Grinder said he filed the suit because he thought the selection violated the constitutional separation between government and religion.

“I definitely felt it violated the separation of church and state,” Grinder said. “I felt it was necessary to stand up to the University at that point because it seemed they were forcing something on incoming freshmen.”
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The female student who decided to retain her anonymity was referred to as Jane Doe by Joe Glover, president of the Family Policy Network, which filed the suit in July 2002.

The organization's mission statement
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The group's primary issues of interest are 1.) The definition of the traditional family, 2.) Human sexuality, and 3.) Religious liberties.

The organizational objectives of FPN include:

  • Educating Christians on important moral issues in public and corporate policy
  • Confronting the culture by lifting a standard of righteousness in the public square
  • Raising awareness of the harmful effects of immorality on families and communities
  • Dissuading companies from condoning and/or sponsoring immoral behavior
  • Promoting forgiveness and healing as an "alternative lifestyle" for people involved in the sin of homosexuality
  • Supporting passage and enforcement of laws protecting families, people of faith, community standards of decency, and public health
  • Encouraging corporate and public support for honoring America's Christian heritage
  • Defending Biblical Christianity as the only answer to life's ultimate questions
  • Equipping and networking Christians together for the purpose of preserving society and advancing the Kingdom of God
  • Maintaining Christian humility and integrity in all aspects of the organization's endeavors
Does it seem to you, as it seems to me, that religious liberty in the eyes of the Family Policy Network means only a Christian liberty? With this seemly double standard, it is appropiate they lost the case
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Old 01-20-2005, 07:55 AM
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So then it would be ok with you if the university also asked all incoming freshmen to read parts of the Bible?
You really missed the point!
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You really missed the point!
hehe.... yep.

I would say this this is a clear double standard.... unfortunately, this type of thing runs rampant in the Evangelical/Protestant world.
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Freedom of religion for some it seems only means freedom of Christianity. You can follow any faith so long as you believe in Jesus... you can be Catholic, Luthran, Baptist, you know anything..

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Does it seem to you, as it seems to me, that religious liberty in the eyes of the Family Policy Network means only a Christian liberty?
For some, it would never occur to them that the words are not synonymous.


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With this seemly double standard, it is appropiate they lost the case
Legally they lost because unless they can show that the university was trying to promote belief in Islam - as opposed to just promoting better understanding - it's not a violation of separation of church and state. Institutions of education are allowed to educate, even if the education is about religion.
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No I didn't, I find the idea of ideological double standards having a place in deciding the merits of a case rediculous.
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With this seemly double standard, it is appropiate they lost the case
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Does it seem to you, as it seems to me, that religious liberty in the eyes of the Family Policy Network means only a Christian liberty?
I see nothing in their mission statement that interferes with religious liberty.
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No I didn't, I find the idea of ideological double standards having a place in deciding the merits of a case rediculous.

I see nothing in their mission statement that interferes with religious liberty.
I really don't think you are getting any of this.

Deciding the merits of a case are the courts perogative. They tend NOT to have double standards and are frequently shown the errors of their ways when they do.

It's not in the mission statement - it's in the actions of the Family Policy Network
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